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John R. Sowden
XUbuntu 16.04

I cannot find a program called 'details' that I installed from the ubuntu software center.  USC shows that it is installed, catfish cannot find it.  so I removed it and reinstalled it.  It is not in the application menu system, catfish still cannot find it.



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Re: Can't find installed programs

Peter Silva
fwiw, I can't find any package named 'details' in the normal repositories.   Please provide more information about the package you are trying to install.


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I cannot find a program called 'details' that I installed from the ubuntu software center.  USC shows that it is installed, catfish cannot find it.  so I removed it and reinstalled it.  It is not in the application menu system, catfish still cannot find it.



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Re: Can't find installed programs

Ralf Mardorf-2
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On Sun, 26 Mar 2017 06:32:01 -0700, John R. Sowden wrote:
>XUbuntu 16.04
>
>I cannot find a program called 'details' that I installed from the
>ubuntu software center.  USC shows that it is installed, catfish
>cannot find it.  so I removed it and reinstalled it.  It is not in the
>application menu system, catfish still cannot find it.

Hi,

please open a terminal, copy and paste the following, but replace
"foo" with the package name. Perhaps the package name is "details",
but the package name not necessarily is "details". Post the complete
output, command + output of the command.

  p="foo"
  apt-cache depends $p
  apt-cache show    $p | grep Filename
  dpkg -L           $p | grep desktop
  dpkg -L           $p | grep -v share
  dpkg -L           $p | grep script
  dpkg -L           $p | grep py

The Ubuntu Package Search doesn't finds a package named "details",
there are several paths including or ending with "details". Exact
not case-sensitive file names "details" are seemingly no programs.

Is it a binary or a script?

Regards,
Ralf


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Re: Can't find installed programs

Colin Law
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On 26 March 2017 at 14:32, John R. Sowden <[hidden email]> wrote:
> XUbuntu 16.04
>
> I cannot find a program called 'details' that I installed from the ubuntu
> software center.  USC shows that it is installed, catfish cannot find it.
> so I removed it and reinstalled it.  It is not in the application menu
> system, catfish still cannot find it.

If you look in /var/log/apt/history.log you will see the name of the
package you installed.

Colin

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Re: Can't find installed programs

John R. Sowden
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Re: Can't find installed programs

John R. Sowden
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john@sentry35:~$   p="Details"
john@sentry35:~$   apt-cache depends $p
E: No packages found
john@sentry35:~$   apt-cache show    $p | grep Filename
E: No packages found
john@sentry35:~$   dpkg -L           $p | grep desktop
dpkg-query: package 'details' is not installed
Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,
and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents.
john@sentry35:~$   dpkg -L           $p | grep -v share
dpkg-query: package 'details' is not installed
Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,
and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents.
john@sentry35:~$   dpkg -L           $p | grep script
dpkg-query: package 'details' is not installed
Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,
and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents.
john@sentry35:~$   dpkg -L           $p | grep py
dpkg-query: package 'details' is not installed
Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,
and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents.
john@sentry35:~$


On 03/26/2017 07:14 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Sun, 26 Mar 2017 06:32:01 -0700, John R. Sowden wrote:
XUbuntu 16.04

I cannot find a program called 'details' that I installed from the 
ubuntu software center.  USC shows that it is installed, catfish
cannot find it.  so I removed it and reinstalled it.  It is not in the 
application menu system, catfish still cannot find it.
Hi,

please open a terminal, copy and paste the following, but replace
"foo" with the package name. Perhaps the package name is "details",
but the package name not necessarily is "details". Post the complete
output, command + output of the command.

  p="foo"
  apt-cache depends $p
  apt-cache show    $p | grep Filename
  dpkg -L           $p | grep desktop
  dpkg -L           $p | grep -v share
  dpkg -L           $p | grep script
  dpkg -L           $p | grep py

The Ubuntu Package Search doesn't finds a package named "details",
there are several paths including or ending with "details". Exact
not case-sensitive file names "details" are seemingly no programs.

Is it a binary or a script?

Regards,
Ralf





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Re: Can't find installed programs

John R. Sowden
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Log entry (my deletion and install):
Start-Date: 2017-03-25  19:27:47
Commandline: aptdaemon role='role-remove-packages' sender=':1.69'
Remove: libunity-settings-daemon1:i386 (15.04.1+16.04.20160701-0ubuntu1), libfcitx-gclient0:i386 (1:4.2.9.1-1ubuntu1.16.04.2), libtimezonemap1:i386 (0.4.5), indicator-keyboard:i386 (0.0.0+16.04.20151125-0ubuntu1), ubuntu-touch-sounds:i386 (15.08), unity-control-center:i386 (15.04.0+16.04.20160705-0ubuntu1), libfcitx-config4:i386 (1:4.2.9.1-1ubuntu1.16.04.2), geoclue-ubuntu-geoip:i386 (1.0.2+14.04.20131125-0ubuntu2), indicator-bluetooth:i386 (0.0.6+16.04.20160526-0ubuntu1), indicator-datetime:i386 (15.10+16.04.20160406-0ubuntu1), gnome-session-bin:i386 (3.18.1.2-1ubuntu1.16.04.2), libunity-control-center1:i386 (15.04.0+16.04.20160705-0ubuntu1), libfcitx-utils0:i386 (1:4.2.9.1-1ubuntu1.16.04.2), unity-settings-daemon:i386 (15.04.1+16.04.20160701-0ubuntu1), libtimezonemap-data:i386 (0.4.5), libgeonames0:i386 (0.2+16.04.20160321-0ubuntu1)
End-Date: 2017-03-25  19:28:15

Start-Date: 2017-03-25  19:31:42
Commandline: aptdaemon role='role-commit-packages' sender=':1.69'
Install: libunity-settings-daemon1:i386 (15.04.1+16.04.20160701-0ubuntu1, automatic), libfcitx-gclient0:i386 (1:4.2.9.1-1ubuntu1.16.04.2, automatic), libtimezonemap1:i386 (0.4.5, automatic), indicator-keyboard:i386 (0.0.0+16.04.20151125-0ubuntu1, automatic), ubuntu-touch-sounds:i386 (15.08, automatic), unity-control-center:i386 (15.04.0+16.04.20160705-0ubuntu1), libfcitx-config4:i386 (1:4.2.9.1-1ubuntu1.16.04.2, automatic), geoclue-ubuntu-geoip:i386 (1.0.2+14.04.20131125-0ubuntu2, automatic), indicator-bluetooth:i386 (0.0.6+16.04.20160526-0ubuntu1, automatic), indicator-datetime:i386 (15.10+16.04.20160406-0ubuntu1, automatic), gnome-session-bin:i386 (3.18.1.2-1ubuntu1.16.04.2, automatic), libunity-control-center1:i386 (15.04.0+16.04.20160705-0ubuntu1, automatic), libfcitx-utils0:i386 (1:4.2.9.1-1ubuntu1.16.04.2, automatic), unity-settings-daemon:i386 (15.04.1+16.04.20160701-0ubuntu1, automatic), libtimezonemap-data:i386 (0.4.5, automatic), libgeonames0:i386 (0.2+16.04.20160321-0ubuntu1, automatic)
End-Date: 2017-03-25  19:32:14

Seems that the Software Center should not use a large name in bold at the top, and have it in the search titles if it is not the program title.  Also this seems to be a library for another program.  The USC references that this is _also_ can be called by Nautilus.  I use Thunar (xubuntu) and could not find a reference there.  I found nothing in the menu that might be it., under a different name.

John







On 03/26/2017 07:21 AM, Colin Law wrote:
On 26 March 2017 at 14:32, John R. Sowden [hidden email] wrote:
XUbuntu 16.04

I cannot find a program called 'details' that I installed from the ubuntu
software center.  USC shows that it is installed, catfish cannot find it.
so I removed it and reinstalled it.  It is not in the application menu
system, catfish still cannot find it.
If you look in /var/log/apt/history.log you will see the name of the
package you installed.

Colin




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Re: Can't find installed programs

Ralf Mardorf-2
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On Sun, 26 Mar 2017 07:45:51 -0700, John R. Sowden wrote:

>On 03/26/2017 07:14 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>> please open a terminal, copy and paste the following, but replace
>> "foo" with the package name. Perhaps the package name is "details",
>> but the package name not necessarily is "details". Post the complete
>> output, command + output of the command.
>>
>>    p="foo"
>>    apt-cache depends $p
>>    apt-cache show    $p | grep Filename
>>    dpkg -L           $p | grep desktop
>>    dpkg -L           $p | grep -v share
>>    dpkg -L           $p | grep script
>>    dpkg -L           $p | grep py
>>
>> The Ubuntu Package Search doesn't finds a package named "details",
>> there are several paths including or ending with "details". Exact
>> not case-sensitive file names "details" are seemingly no programs.
>>
>> Is it a binary or a script?
>
>john@sentry35:~$   p="Details"
>john@sentry35:~$   apt-cache depends $p
>E: No packages found

The commands are case-sensitive. If the package name should be
"details", it can't find an installed package "Details".

[root@moonstudio ~]# p="Nano"
[root@moonstudio ~]# apt-cache depends $p
E: No packages found
[root@moonstudio ~]# p="nano"
[root@moonstudio ~]# apt-cache depends $p
nano
  Depends: libc6
  Depends: libncursesw5
  Depends: libtinfo5
  Conflicts: <pico>
  Suggests: spell
  Replaces: <pico>

I never used Ubuntu Software Centre. Doesn't it show you the real
package name? Is there no information about the program? Perhaps it is
a LUA, Python or whatsoever script?

I can't help you to find the real name of the program, if it
shouldn't be "details".

Dose the following Wiki or any other Wiki or help page about Sotware
Centre help you to find more details?

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareCenter

Disclaimer: I didn't read the link.

Regards,
Ralf


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Re: Can't find installed programs

Ralf Mardorf-2
On Sun, 26 Mar 2017 17:08:21 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>I can't help you to find the real name of the program, if it
>shouldn't be "details"

or the real name of the package, since package name and program name
are nor necessarily the same.


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Re: Can't find installed programs

Ralf Mardorf-2
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On Sun, 26 Mar 2017 07:53:14 -0700, John R. Sowden wrote:
>Log entry (my deletion and install):

Take a screenshot of the Software Centre, that shows the screen to
install "details" and post a link to the screenshot. I guess very low
quality screenshots could be posted to the mailing list. IIRC a mail is
allowed to have a size of 40 MB, so a screenshot with a size of 20 MB +
the email text might make it through the list. If not you could use
http://picpaste.com/ or a similar site to upload the screenshot and
then post a link.


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Re: Can't find installed programs

John R. Sowden
I did a screen shot of the Details entry in the USC but I can't send it to the list.  I googled for a text based screenshot program but could not find one, hoping to include it in a list message.  I'll try one of what you suggested.

John


On 03/26/2017 08:21 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Sun, 26 Mar 2017 07:53:14 -0700, John R. Sowden wrote:
Log entry (my deletion and install):
Take a screenshot of the Software Centre, that shows the screen to
install "details" and post a link to the screenshot. I guess very low
quality screenshots could be posted to the mailing list. IIRC a mail is
allowed to have a size of 40 MB, so a screenshot with a size of 20 MB +
the email text might make it through the list. If not you could use
http://picpaste.com/ or a similar site to upload the screenshot and
then post a link.





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Re: Can't find installed programs

Ralf Mardorf-2
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Details about "details" sounds like an untimely April fool hoax or Bart
prank call Moe.

Roger Roger


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Re: Can't find installed programs

Liam Proven
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On 26 March 2017 at 16:53, John R. Sowden <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Seems that the Software Center should not use a large name in bold at the
> top, and have it in the search titles if it is not the program title.  Also
> this seems to be a library for another program.  The USC references that
> this is _also_ can be called by Nautilus.  I use Thunar (xubuntu) and could
> not find a reference there.  I found nothing in the menu that might be it.,
> under a different name.


There is no program called "details" in there. Indeed "details" is a
strange name for a program. What were you trying to install? To do
what?


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Re: Can't find installed programs

John R. Sowden
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http://picpaste.com/Details_2017-03-26_07-33-16.png


in the above mess is the link.

John

On 03/26/2017 08:21 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Sun, 26 Mar 2017 07:53:14 -0700, John R. Sowden wrote:
Log entry (my deletion and install):
Take a screenshot of the Software Centre, that shows the screen to
install "details" and post a link to the screenshot. I guess very low
quality screenshots could be posted to the mailing list. IIRC a mail is
allowed to have a size of 40 MB, so a screenshot with a size of 20 MB +
the email text might make it through the list. If not you could use
http://picpaste.com/ or a similar site to upload the screenshot and
then post a link.





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Re: Can't find installed programs

Ralf Mardorf-2
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On Sun, 26 Mar 2017 17:31:46 +0200, Liam Proven wrote:
>There is no program called "details" in there. Indeed "details" is a
>strange name for a program. What were you trying to install? To do
>what?

A screenshot should ensure that the OP didn't push a button to display
_details_ of a package and/or program with another name.



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Re: Can't find installed programs

Ralf Mardorf-2
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On Sun, 26 Mar 2017 08:35:44 -0700, John R. Sowden wrote:
>http://picpaste.com/Details_2017-03-26_07-33-16.png

I suspect that you clicked something, that shows details about a
package. IOW "details" unlikely is the package name. You seemingly
installed a package or meta package with "applets" much likely those
"indicator" things.

"Applets" are most likely not programs you can run directly, you much
likely need to add them to e.g. a panel or some other software run by
your desktop environment. Some panels e.g. provide to add such things
by a right click. However, I'm not using Unity or GNOME, so I can't
help you with this. Most likely another subscriber could help you,
resp. consider to search the Ubuntu Wiki and help pages. How to add
"configuration applets" to your desktop and/or panel.


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Re: Can't find installed programs

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OK found it.  "Details" is installed on my system, and from "Ubuntu Software"
I launch it, and it brings up the "Details" menu from the normal "Settings" dialog.

Go into Settings on an ordinary ubuntu. There is a "Details" icon.  That is what is launched.

There is no "Details" package on my system, and no binary running that has
the word details anywhere in the name.    



On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 11:36 AM, Ralf Mardorf <[hidden email]> wrote:
On Sun, 26 Mar 2017 17:31:46 +0200, Liam Proven wrote:
>There is no program called "details" in there. Indeed "details" is a
>strange name for a program. What were you trying to install? To do
>what?

A screenshot should ensure that the OP didn't push a button to display
_details_ of a package and/or program with another name.



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Re: Can't find installed programs

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On 26 March 2017 at 16:35, John R. Sowden <[hidden email]> wrote:

From the apt log you posted earlier you can see that, amongst other stuff, it is unity-settings-daemon that is being installed. I think this is the daemon that provides the System Settings app in Unity. It therefore is probably not very useful in Xubuntu.

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Re: Can't find installed programs

Liam Proven
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On 26 March 2017 at 17:35, John R. Sowden <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> http://picpaste.com/Details_2017-03-26_07-33-16.png
>
>
> in the above mess is the link.

John, please try to set your email program to use plain text, and put
your reply _below_ the message you are replying to. Usually this just
means selecting the bit of the message that you're replying to before
you press the Reply button.

That "details" function is a standard part of the Ubuntu control
panel, which is called System Preferences.

But you say you're running Xubuntu. That isn't standard Ubuntu. It
doesn't have the standard Ubuntu desktop, which is called Unity.
Xubuntu has XFCE instead. XFCE doesn't have the Ubuntu System
Preferences app -- it doesn't have any of the standard bits of the
Ubuntu Unity desktop, because it uses a different, older-fashioned,
slightly more Windows-like desktop instead.

So this program won't work for you, because you don't have the bigger
program it plugs into.

What were you hoping to achieve?

If you just want to see your system info, this link may help:

https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1342572

See message #4.



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Re: Can't find installed programs

Ralf Mardorf-2
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On Sun, 26 Mar 2017 16:49:13 +0100, Colin Law wrote:
>From the apt log you posted earlier you can see that, amongst other
>stuff, it is unity-settings-daemon that is being installed. I think
>this is the daemon that provides the System Settings app in Unity. It
>therefore is probably not very useful in Xubuntu.

:D

As a site note for the OP. There are so called "desktop files" that
could be used to manage, that some software only shows up, if you are
running a dedicated environment. IOW it could be, that it is visible
when running Unity, but not shown when running Xfce. You could edit
those "desktop files", to show the settings whatever environment you
are running, but most likely those settings don't affect Xfce. It might
even be, that they don't start, because they require some Unity software
to run, that doesn't run, if you run a Xfce session.


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