FBI looking at open source sites!

It seems the FBI is now monitoring open source sites:

http://benjaminkerensa.com/post/4798998815/this-screenshot-is-a-snippet-from-a-letter-sent-by

I wonder if they monitor Ubuntu Forums? :P

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They monitor everything.

 

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Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 12:39 PM
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Subject: FBI looking at open source sites!

 

It seems the FBI is now monitoring open source sites:

http://benjaminkerensa.com/post/4798998815/this-screenshot-is-a-snippet-from-a-letter-sent-by

 

I wonder if they monitor Ubuntu Forums? :P

 

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must be part of the carnivore program : ) 

On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 1:14 PM, W. Scott Lockwood III <[hidden email]> wrote:

They monitor everything.

 

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From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Benjamin Kerensa
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 12:39 PM
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Subject: FBI looking at open source sites!

 

It seems the FBI is now monitoring open source sites:

http://benjaminkerensa.com/post/4798998815/this-screenshot-is-a-snippet-from-a-letter-sent-by

 

I wonder if they monitor Ubuntu Forums? :P

 

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With as buggy as this junk is the FBI probably thinks Ubuntu and Linux are virus programs designed to destroy the internet and computers world wide. Can't blame them myself, this stuff is worse than anything Microsoft ever put out! there is nothing that works properly in it or with it!

 

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must be part of the carnivore program : ) 

On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 1:14 PM, W. Scott Lockwood III <[hidden email]> wrote:

They monitor everything.

 

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From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Benjamin Kerensa
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 12:39 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: FBI looking at open source sites!

 

It seems the FBI is now monitoring open source sites:

http://benjaminkerensa.com/post/4798998815/this-screenshot-is-a-snippet-from-a-letter-sent-by

 

I wonder if they monitor Ubuntu Forums? :P

 

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On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 4:07 PM, johnstark <[hidden email]> wrote:
> With as buggy as this junk is the FBI probably thinks Ubuntu and Linux are
> virus programs designed to destroy the internet and computers world wide.
> Can't blame them myself, this stuff is worse than anything Microsoft ever
> put out! there is nothing that works properly in it or with it!

I have heard (but not read) that the thin air one is exposed to during
intergalaxy travel can _warp_ conclusions also :)

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> With as buggy as this junk is the FBI probably thinks Ubuntu and Linux are virus programs designed to destroy the internet and computers world wide. Can't blame them myself, this stuff is worse than anything Microsoft ever put out! there is nothing that works properly in it or with it!

 

 

 

Nonsense

 

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[johnstark]

No, the TRUTH.... it's got more bugs than garbage dump on 90 degree day! And Ubuntu/Linux are totally useless....

From: [hidden email]

Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 5:20 PM

To: [hidden email]

Subject: RE: FBI looking at open source sites!

> With as buggy as this junk is the FBI probably thinks Ubuntu and Linux are virus programs designed to destroy the internet and computers world wide. Can't blame them myself, this stuff is worse than anything Microsoft ever put out! there is nothing that works properly in it or with it!

 

 

 

Nonsense

 

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Larry you should get out of the clouds then.... and back to earth....

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From: "Larry Vaden" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 5:15 PM
To: <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: FBI looking at open source sites!

> On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 4:07 PM, johnstark <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>> With as buggy as this junk is the FBI probably thinks Ubuntu and Linux
>> are
>> virus programs designed to destroy the internet and computers world wide.
>> Can't blame them myself, this stuff is worse than anything Microsoft ever
>> put out! there is nothing that works properly in it or with it!
>
> I have heard (but not read) that the thin air one is exposed to during
> intergalaxy travel can _warp_ conclusions also :)
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On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 5:41 PM, johnstark <[hidden email]> wrote:

No, the TRUTH.... it's got more bugs than garbage dump on 90 degree day! And Ubuntu/Linux are totally useless....

There is a minimum IQ level that is strongly recommended. 

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[compdoc]

> No, the TRUTH.... it's got more bugs than garbage dump on 90 degree day! And Ubuntu/Linux are totally useless....

 

 

Yet millions of normal everyday people, IT people, and government institutions manage to run their computers, servers, and data centers on it.

 

I have several servers running it myself - no crashes, no bugs, no issues. Maybe all of us are just lucky?

 

I use Windows and sell and service computers running it - and yeah, it works and I like it.  But I can tell you a truth: it's not without its bugs.

 

 

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On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 5:41 PM, johnstark <[hidden email]> wrote:

No, the TRUTH.... it's got more bugs than garbage dump on 90 degree day! And Ubuntu/Linux are totally useless....

From: [hidden email]

Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 5:20 PM

To: [hidden email]

Subject: RE: FBI looking at open source sites!

> With as buggy as this junk is the FBI probably thinks Ubuntu and Linux are virus programs designed to destroy the internet and computers world wide. Can't blame them myself, this stuff is worse than anything Microsoft ever put out! there is nothing that works properly in it or with it!

 

 

 Funny, I've been running it for years now without an issue and the Microsoft OSes I replaced with my last two PC were crap.

Pat Brown

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On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 18:07, johnstark <[hidden email]> wrote:
> With as buggy as this junk is the FBI probably thinks Ubuntu and Linux are
> virus programs designed to destroy the internet and computers world wide.
> Can't blame them myself, this stuff is worse than anything Microsoft ever
> put out! there is nothing that works properly in it or with it!
>

Huh, never imagined I'd see trolls on this list...

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On 26 April 2011 18:39, Benjamin Kerensa <[hidden email]> wrote:
> It seems the FBI is now monitoring open source sites:
> http://benjaminkerensa.com/post/4798998815/this-screenshot-is-a-snippet-from-a-letter-sent-by
> I wonder if they monitor Ubuntu Forums? :P
>

Enough. Please.

This is an ubuntu support mailing list, not a personal blogs-spam and
rant list. End of thread please.

Al.

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[chris-776]

On Tue, 2011-04-26 at 18:58 -0300, Rodrigo López Dato wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 18:07, johnstark <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > With as buggy as this junk is the FBI probably thinks Ubuntu and Linux are
> > virus programs designed to destroy the internet and computers world wide.
> > Can't blame them myself, this stuff is worse than anything Microsoft ever
> > put out! there is nothing that works properly in it or with it!
> >
>
> Huh, never imagined I'd see trolls on this list...
>

Yes, you would think we would have the sense not to feed it.
I notice also that it was posting from Microsoft mailer.



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[chris-776]

On Tue, 2011-04-26 at 23:00 +0100, Alan Pope wrote:

> On 26 April 2011 18:39, Benjamin Kerensa <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > It seems the FBI is now monitoring open source sites:
> > http://benjaminkerensa.com/post/4798998815/this-screenshot-is-a-snippet-from-a-letter-sent-by
> > I wonder if they monitor Ubuntu Forums? :P
> >
>
> Enough. Please.
>
> This is an ubuntu support mailing list, not a personal blogs-spam and
> rant list. End of thread please.
>
> Al.
>

Move it to here [hidden email]  

or you could try sounder. :-)



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troll, no, just being honest, Ubuntu is WORTHLESS it's got more issues than
any version of Windows and I have used all of them.... the trolls are those
who actually think this crap (Ubuntu) is good!

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From: "Rodrigo López Dato" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 5:58 PM
To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions"
<[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: FBI looking at open source sites!

> On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 18:07, johnstark <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> With as buggy as this junk is the FBI probably thinks Ubuntu and Linux
>> are
>> virus programs designed to destroy the internet and computers world wide.
>> Can't blame them myself, this stuff is worse than anything Microsoft ever
>> put out! there is nothing that works properly in it or with it!
>>
>
> Huh, never imagined I'd see trolls on this list...
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used to be the bugs would crash the os win&Lin, but what's great now is
that they can exist, be dealt with, still run the os, avoid or replace
software, way fewer reboots, etc.

I run Ubuntu on old semprons and the share works super smooth and i back
up to it every day.  you haven't seen me here bc i don't have any issues
with it.  and when i can't update anymore, (bugs in the update app) i
just DL a new ver.  done.


On 04/26/2011 08:00 PM, johnstark wrote:

> troll, no, just being honest, Ubuntu is WORTHLESS it's got more issues
> than any version of Windows and I have used all of them.... the trolls
> are those who actually think this crap (Ubuntu) is good!
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Rodrigo López Dato" <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 5:58 PM
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions"
> <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: FBI looking at open source sites!
>
>> On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 18:07, johnstark <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>> With as buggy as this junk is the FBI probably thinks Ubuntu and
>>> Linux are
>>> virus programs designed to destroy the internet and computers world
>>> wide.
>>> Can't blame them myself, this stuff is worse than anything Microsoft
>>> ever
>>> put out! there is nothing that works properly in it or with it!
>>>
>>
>> Huh, never imagined I'd see trolls on this list...
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Hi John

> Larry you should get out of the clouds then.... and back to earth....
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Larry Vaden" <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 5:15 PM
> To: <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: FBI looking at open source sites!
>
> > On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 4:07 PM, johnstark
<[hidden email]>
> >
> > wrote:
> >> With as buggy as this junk is the FBI probably thinks Ubuntu and
Linux
> >> are
> >> virus programs designed to destroy the internet and computers
world
> >> wide. Can't blame them myself, this stuff is worse than anything
> >> Microsoft ever put out! there is nothing that works properly in it
or
> >> with it!
> >
> > I have heard (but not read) that the thin air one is exposed to
during
> > intergalaxy travel can _warp_ conclusions also :)

All OS's have their share of bugs. They're all created by rather fallible
creatures ....... Humans. Also people have likes and dislikes and oft like
to hate things. Seems you may be in the last cat there. That it doesn't
live up to your expectations isn't gonna kill it. Some people just set
their expectations way too high. They're the ones who are seldom
happy with things. I for one have far less hassles with Ubuntu (Linux in
general) than with Windows and I've been with Windows since the
win3.1 incarnation. The other prob oft seen is people jumping in and
not knowing what they're doing and then blaming everything but their
selves . My own brother is like that. Everything should be this or that
way. He has a picture in his mind of a perfect world. He constantly
needs reminding that the perfect world is the minds fiction. It just does
not exist

Re the FBI looking at open source software it atually says "open source
webpages" which covers more than just the software. Likely they see
open source as a way of smuggling illegal softwares and such or
possibly looking at forcing compliance with certain legislations to cut
down on pirating. That letter really gives nothing away so any
conclusion from it is pure speculation

James

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On 04/27/2011 07:56 AM, chris wrote:
> or you could try sounder.:-)
>

Careful, Chris, as this is off topic, continuing this may result in the
shutting down of this list too.   ;)

An god forbid, hush...not a single mention of shhhhhh... israeli policies.

Oh , I did talk religion, did I? Rats.


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On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 10:34:09 +0800
Goh Lip <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On 04/27/2011 07:56 AM, chris wrote:
> > or you could try sounder.:-)
>
> Careful, Chris, as this is off topic, continuing this may result in
> the shutting down of this list too.   ;)
>
> An god forbid, hush...not a single mention of shhhhhh... israeli
> policies.
>
> Oh , I did talk religion, did I? Rats.

Although you didn't ask for a copy I'm sending to your email, too
because,..    ...well, just because.
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Oh, hell, you had to start it, didn't you?

 
It's a great suggestion that we should point to the possibility of list
shut-down on all the email list pages. Community Council, could you
push that through quietly, please?

Nevertheless, it's also perfectly reasonable that there be a niceness
policy that applies to a list. Everyone on ubuntu-users should now be
absolutely clear that this is the case, and that users who can't
exercise the appropriate judgment aren't /really/ human and are not
welcome on this list and others at lists.ubuntu.com.

I would ask everyone on these lists to help new folks find their inner
censor, and help set the tone for all the conversations that are untold
here.  Otherwise the mailing list(s) will be shut down.
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