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It's out.
http://www.gnome3.org/ As seen here: http://www.techworld.com.au/article/382495/gnome_3_will_ubuntu_reconsider_/ And if you read the comments: https://launchpad.net/ubuntugnome/ -- Liam Proven • Info & profile: http://www.google.com/profiles/lproven Email: [hidden email] • GMail/GoogleTalk/Orkut: [hidden email] Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 • Cell: +44 7939-087884 • Fax: + 44 870-9151419 AIM/Yahoo/Skype: liamproven • MSN: [hidden email] • ICQ: 73187508 -- sounder mailing list [hidden email] Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/sounder |
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On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Liam Proven <[hidden email]> wrote:
> It's out. > > http://www.gnome3.org/ > > As seen here: > http://www.techworld.com.au/article/382495/gnome_3_will_ubuntu_reconsider_/ > > And if you read the comments: > https://launchpad.net/ubuntugnome/ > Mark Shuttleworth is letting his ego do the driving. His comments of "this is not a democracy" flies in the face of what an open source project is supposed to be. Ubuntu's development should be based on what the community wants, not what one person wants. He wants to be Steve Jobs in an environment where the user community historically has had and demands to have an equal voice. -- Michael "TheZorch" Haney "The greatest tragedy in mankind's entire history may be the hijacking of morality by religion." ~ Arthur C. Clarke "The suppression of uncomfortable ideas may be common in religion and politics, but it is not the path to knowledge, and there is no place for it in the endeavor of science. " ~ Carl Sagan Visit My Site: http://sites.google.com/site/thezorch/home-1 To Contact Me: http://sites.google.com/site/thezorch/home-1/zorch-central---contacts Free Your PC from the Bondage of Windows http://www.ubuntu.com -- sounder mailing list [hidden email] Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/sounder |
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Michael Haney [2011-04-07 13:10 -0400]:
> Mark Shuttleworth is letting his ego do the driving. His comments of > "this is not a democracy" flies in the face of what an open source > project is supposed to be. Ubuntu's development should be based on > what the community wants, not what one person wants. This is not how FOSS works, though. Traditionally communities are meritocratic. free software developers don't usually (only) do what other people ask them to, but what they want to do themselves. :) Martin -- Martin Pitt | http://www.piware.de Ubuntu Developer (www.ubuntu.com) | Debian Developer (www.debian.org) -- sounder mailing list [hidden email] Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/sounder |
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Michael Haney wrote:
> Mark Shuttleworth is letting his ego do the driving. His comments of > "this is not a democracy" flies in the face of what an open source > project is supposed to be. No it doesn't. I can't think of a single truly Open Source project. Meritocracies and benevolent dictatorships are the norm. -- Avi -- sounder mailing list [hidden email] Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/sounder |
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2011/4/7 Avi <[hidden email]>:
> Michael Haney wrote: > >> Mark Shuttleworth is letting his ego do the driving. His comments of >> "this is not a democracy" flies in the face of what an open source >> project is supposed to be. > > No it doesn't. I can't think of a single truly Open Source project. > Meritocracies and benevolent dictatorships are the norm. > I don't get either point. Open Source, in any of the licenses I am familiar with, does not provide anyone with a vote. It's not a democracy because there is nothing like a government; it's open, so there is no need to reach an agreement - one disagrees, one forks (with due respect to the legal constraints of the applicable license). Truly Open Source means only that the code is released with one of a set of licenses; it has nothing to do with how the author (person or company) decides to manage the community. It is PLAUSIBLE that one wants the largest possible audience, therefore one listens to those who use the software when looking for requirements, but there is no reason to be forced by the will of the masses. Everybody is free to ask, more or less politely, and everyone is free to ignore the requests, more or less politely. Doesn't change the openness of the source code a bit (pun intended). Personally, I prefer this to a great big democracy where every J. Random User has the same steering power over my project as me; after all, I'm investing more, economically and maybe emotionally, in my project than the average user, so I should also have more authority over it. my tuppence, I. > -- > Avi > > -- > sounder mailing list > [hidden email] > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/sounder > -- sounder mailing list [hidden email] Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/sounder |
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On Fri, 8 Apr 2011 00:51:58 +0100
Ignazio Palmisano <[hidden email]> wrote: > one disagrees, one forks Ah, the very definition of open source. Thank you, Ignazio. Cybe R. Wizard -- If we all worked on the assumption that what is accepted as true is really true, there would be little hope of advance. Orville Wright -- sounder mailing list [hidden email] Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/sounder |
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