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Had enough (of bugs)!

Simon Rönnqvist
  Hi!

I must say I really tried to use Kubuntu (on my PowerBook). Ever since I
installed it (Breezy) it's been bloated with bugs. After waiting a couple of
months with hardly any bugs being fixed I've started to doubt my choise of
distro. (Tested a Hoary live-cd on my Mac, which also seemed a bit buggy...
even though not as much.)

Today however Konqueror first froze the whole X, I rebooted... then Kontact
wouldn't start. That was it for me... I finally did a "sudo aptitude install
ubuntu-desktop", and changed to GDM. (Using aptitude to be able to clean up
after Ubuntu once I return to Kubuntu, if I do.) Now I'm using my beloved KDE
apps from Gnome and it feels real good. ;-)

I'd love to help you beta test Kubuntu, but when there's other work to be done
one has to be pragmatical. I might come back if I notice that it's gotten
much more stable. Or if I sell my Mac and get a PC-laptop. The i386 (and
maybe AMD64) version(s) is/are less buggy, right?

  cheers, Simon

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Re: Had enough (of bugs)!

Lionelv
Simon Rönnqvist wrote:
> I'd love to help you beta test Kubuntu, but when there's other work to be done
> one has to be pragmatical. I might come back if I notice that it's gotten
> much more stable. Or if I sell my Mac and get a PC-laptop. The i386 (and
> maybe AMD64) version(s) is/are less buggy, right?

I've never had any of the problems you describe. I've had Konqueror
crash in Hoary, but never lock up X, the only time I get X crashing is
due to the nvidia drivers, which has, in the past, been quite frequent,
I didn't install the nvidia drivers on my latest install of Hoary until
a few days ago, so far no crashes but I don't know if that means
anything yet.

Lionel.


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Re: Had enough (of bugs)!

Andy Choens
> I've never had any of the problems you describe. I've had Konqueror
> crash in Hoary, but never lock up X, the only time I get X crashing is
> due to the nvidia drivers, which has, in the past, been quite frequent,
> I didn't install the nvidia drivers on my latest install of Hoary until
> a few days ago, so far no crashes but I don't know if that means
> anything yet.
>
I don't have an nvidia graphics card, so I don't have that problem at
all.  The only thing that ever crashes on my system is kaffeine, and
konqueror (but only when kaffeine is embedded in konqueror).  This has
been the same on hoary, breezy, and breezy with kde 3.5.

I may be getting a friend to put kubuntu onto an old mac, I'm curious
to see if we get the same results as the OP.  I only have experience
with the x86 and amd64 versions of Kubuntu.

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Re: Had enough (of bugs)!

Lionelv
Andy Choens wrote:
> I only have experience
> with the x86 and amd64 versions of Kubuntu.

Likewise, I should have specified that in my post.

Lionel.


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Slow login (nfs mounted home)

Alan Bowden
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Hi,

I am assessing kubuntu (dapper) for use in our work environment and come up with
a bit of a show stopper.

We have all our home directories on a Network Appliance server which acts essentially
as an NFS mounted volume.

When I create a user account with the home directory on our server, the whole login
and subsequent usage becomes unusable (~3 minutes to open a konsole terminal). Some
applications then seem to run normally, but others still have problems. For example,
even when the konsole opens, one still cannot type in it.

Any suggestions to try would be welcome.

Alan

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Re: Slow login (nfs mounted home)

Oscar Carlsson-2
Check that you have portmap installed and running before trying to mount a nfs-volume.
You can also test your bandwidth between you and your server - it might be the reason why it's so slow.
And install nfs-common if you haven't already :-)

Oscar

On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 09:51:57 +0200
"Alan Bowden" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am assessing kubuntu (dapper) for use in our work environment and come up with
> a bit of a show stopper.
>
> We have all our home directories on a Network Appliance server which acts essentially
> as an NFS mounted volume.
>
> When I create a user account with the home directory on our server, the whole login
> and subsequent usage becomes unusable (~3 minutes to open a konsole terminal). Some
> applications then seem to run normally, but others still have problems. For example,
> even when the konsole opens, one still cannot type in it.
>
> Any suggestions to try would be welcome.
>
> Alan
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RE: Slow login (nfs mounted home)

Alan Bowden
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Thanks Oscar - Works perfectly now

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Check that you have portmap installed and running before trying to mount a nfs-volume.
You can also test your bandwidth between you and your server - it might be the reason why it's so slow.
And install nfs-common if you haven't already :-)

Oscar

On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 09:51:57 +0200
"Alan Bowden" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am assessing kubuntu (dapper) for use in our work environment and come up with
> a bit of a show stopper.
>
> We have all our home directories on a Network Appliance server which acts essentially
> as an NFS mounted volume.
>
> When I create a user account with the home directory on our server, the whole login
> and subsequent usage becomes unusable (~3 minutes to open a konsole terminal). Some
> applications then seem to run normally, but others still have problems. For example,
> even when the konsole opens, one still cannot type in it.
>
> Any suggestions to try would be welcome.
>
> Alan
>
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Re: Had enough (of bugs)!

Simon Rönnqvist
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On Wednesday 14 December 2005 05:39, Lionel wrote:
> Andy Choens wrote:
> > I only have experience
> > with the x86 and amd64 versions of Kubuntu.
>
> Likewise, I should have specified that in my post.

OK, I'm happy to hear that Kubuntu does well on x86 and AMD64. I guess using
Kubuntu on a Mac is kind of uncommon, and therefore may have more bugs.

  cheers, Simon

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Re: Had enough (of bugs)!

Noah Dain
On 12/14/05, Simon Rönnqvist <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On Wednesday 14 December 2005 05:39, Lionel wrote:
> > Andy Choens wrote:
> > > I only have experience
> > > with the x86 and amd64 versions of Kubuntu.
> >
> > Likewise, I should have specified that in my post.
>
> OK, I'm happy to hear that Kubuntu does well on x86 and AMD64. I guess using
> Kubuntu on a Mac is kind of uncommon, and therefore may have more bugs.
>
>   cheers, Simon
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I've had absolutely zero problems here with kubuntu/breezy on x86.
It's nice and fast too.

Actually, I did have some minor problems at first with upgrades and
config files, but those were resolved by deleting ~/.kde and starting
anew.  My experiences on gnome have been similar.

Are you sure your issues are with kde and not something lower level?
Like bad drivers of some sort, buggy X11 server, maybe?  Konqueror
shouldn't really be able to lock up and X server like that, unless
it's tripping bug internal to the X server.

SuSE is big on KDE.  Maybe they have a live cd you can try?

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to do with a hardware defect, such as cosmic radiation ..." - IBM
Thinkpad R40 maintenance manual, page 25

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Re: Had enough (of bugs)! (in the Mac/PowerPC version)

Simon Rönnqvist
On Saturday 17 December 2005 09:50, Noah Dain wrote:

> On 12/14/05, Simon Rönnqvist <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > On Wednesday 14 December 2005 05:39, Lionel wrote:
> > > Andy Choens wrote:
> > > > I only have experience
> > > > with the x86 and amd64 versions of Kubuntu.
> > >
> > > Likewise, I should have specified that in my post.
> >
> > OK, I'm happy to hear that Kubuntu does well on x86 and AMD64. I guess
> > using Kubuntu on a Mac is kind of uncommon, and therefore may have more
> > bugs.
> >
> >   cheers, Simon
> >
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> I've had absolutely zero problems here with kubuntu/breezy on x86.
> It's nice and fast too.
>
> Actually, I did have some minor problems at first with upgrades and
> config files, but those were resolved by deleting ~/.kde and starting
> anew.  My experiences on gnome have been similar.
>
> Are you sure your issues are with kde and not something lower level?
> Like bad drivers of some sort, buggy X11 server, maybe?  Konqueror
> shouldn't really be able to lock up and X server like that, unless
> it's tripping bug internal to the X server.
>
> SuSE is big on KDE.  Maybe they have a live cd you can try?
>
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> "Single failures can occur for a variety of reasons that have nothing
> to do with a hardware defect, such as cosmic radiation ..." - IBM
> Thinkpad R40 maintenance manual, page 25


Well, I've had several people reporting no very little problems with the x86
and AMD64 versions, which I'm happy to hear. But still I haven't heard
anybody reporting anything about the PowerPC version (of Breezy).

  cheers, Simon

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