How to store passwords for Windows Shares in Dolphin/KNetAttach?

[knutihe]

Hi!

I have several Windows Shares I want to mount with KNetAttach and then add it to the favorites Panel in Dolphin. Now I have to enter my username/password combination everytime I close Dolphin, which is pretty annoying. Is there a possibility to save username/pw so I don't have to type it all the time?

Thx in advance!  

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[Guus Bonnema]

On 02/23/2012 10:22 AM, [hidden email] wrote:

Hi!

I have several Windows Shares I want to mount with KNetAttach and then add it to the favorites Panel in Dolphin. Now I have to enter my username/password combination everytime I close Dolphin, which is pretty annoying. Is there a possibility to save username/pw so I don't have to type it all the time?

Thx in advance!  

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Hello,

Don't know whether you can, but I would like to caution you in doing this. A few months ago my son had his PC stolen.
This was immediately followed by misuse of all his registered accounts (email, bank, websites).
Mails were completely deleted and bank was accessed, but happily no transaction was done because of lack of a pass or something.

The point is that he had saved all his passwords in his browser or in the applications he used. For that reason it was easy for the thiefs to access his accounts.

If you now save your passwords in Linux, thiefs of your machine will easily access your windows shares and your effort to secure will be for naught.
Of course, it is entirely up to you. I am only cautioning you that this might happen. Just dont blame Linux if it happens.

Guus Bonnema.

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[O. Sinclair]

On 23/02/12 12:22, Guus wrote:

> On 02/23/2012 10:22 AM, [hidden email] wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> I have several Windows Shares I want to mount with KNetAttach and then
>> add it to the favorites Panel in Dolphin. Now I have to enter my
>> username/password combination everytime I close Dolphin, which is
>> pretty annoying. Is there a possibility to save username/pw so I don't
>> have to type it all the time?
>>
>> Thx in advance!
>>
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>>
> Hello,
>
> Don't know whether you can, but I would like to caution you in doing
> this. A few months ago my son had his PC stolen.
> This was immediately followed by misuse of all his registered accounts
> (email, bank, websites).
> Mails were completely deleted and bank was accessed, but happily no
> transaction was done because of lack of a pass or something.
>
> The point is that he had saved all his passwords in his browser or in
> the applications he used. For that reason it was easy for the thiefs to
> access his accounts.
>
> If you now save your passwords in Linux, thiefs of your machine will
> easily access your windows shares and your effort to secure will be for
> naught.
> Of course, it is entirely up to you. I am only cautioning you that this
> might happen. Just dont blame Linux if it happens.
>

given that windows shares are normally on a LAN I kind of doubt anyone
with a stolen computer will access them. I would like to know the answer
myself as I go nuts by having to put in the username and password every
time I connect to one of the windows servers I frequently work with

Sinclair

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[Guus Bonnema]

On 02/23/2012 12:07 PM, O. Sinclair wrote:
>
> given that windows shares are normally on a LAN I kind of doubt anyone
> with a stolen computer will access them. I would like to know the
> answer myself as I go nuts by having to put in the username and
> password every time I connect to one of the windows servers I
> frequently work with
>
> Sinclair
>

Hey Sinclair,

You may be right if its on a LAN (and they dont take your server as well
xD). Still, I have become very careful with storing passwords in
browsers and other applications because I have seen the consequences.
Reading your response I was wondering why you bother with a password at
all, given that the shares are not publicly accessible.

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[Guus Bonnema]

On 02/23/2012 02:05 PM, Guus wrote:

> On 02/23/2012 12:07 PM, O. Sinclair wrote:
>>
>> given that windows shares are normally on a LAN I kind of doubt
>> anyone with a stolen computer will access them. I would like to know
>> the answer myself as I go nuts by having to put in the username and
>> password every time I connect to one of the windows servers I
>> frequently work with
>>
>> Sinclair
>>
>
> Hey Sinclair,
>
> You may be right if its on a LAN (and they dont take your server as
> well xD). Still, I have become very careful with storing passwords in
> browsers and other applications because I have seen the consequences.
> Reading your response I was wondering why you bother with a password
> at all, given that the shares are not publicly accessible.
>
> Guus Bonnema.
>

If you really want this automated, why not create a script that mounts
the share with the password in it? Make sure the script is only readable
and writable by you or by root, and only executable by others or not.
Then execute the script either at startup or at logon.

Hope this helps.

Guus.

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[knutihe]

On 23.02.2012 14:14, Guus wrote:On 02/23/2012 02:05 PM, Guus wrote:
On 02/23/2012 12:07 PM, O. Sinclair wrote:

given that windows shares are normally on a LAN I kind of doubt anyone with a stolen computer will access them. I would like to know the answer myself as I go nuts by having to put in the username and password every time I connect to one of the windows servers I frequently work with

Sinclair
 
Hey Sinclair,

You may be right if its on a LAN (and they dont take your server as well xD). Still, I have become very careful with storing passwords in browsers and other applications because I have seen the consequences.
Reading your response I was wondering why you bother with a password at all, given that the shares are not publicly accessible.

Guus Bonnema.
 If you really want this automated, why not create a script that mounts the share with the password in it? Make sure the script is only readable and writable by you or by root, and only executable by others or not.
Then execute the script either at startup or at logon.

Hope this helps.

Guus.
 Problem with this is, that root mounts the drives then and the normal user does not have rights to write files in these shared folders, as far as i know. That was the problem that I always had when I scripted it directly in /etc/fstab. Btw. I'm in an enterprise environment.

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[José Queiroz]

Em 23 de fevereiro de 2012 07:22, <[hidden email]> escreveu:

Hi!

I have several Windows Shares I want to mount with KNetAttach and then add it to the favorites Panel in Dolphin. Now I have to enter my username/password combination everytime I close Dolphin, which is pretty annoying. Is there a possibility to save username/pw so I don't have to type it all the time?
 

Thx in advance!  

Hi,

In Kubuntu Lucid this is done by Kwalletd, AFAIK. You are prompted to choose a "master password", without what you cannot retrieve the saved passwords.

I believe that the same will occur with newer versions (Maverick, Natty, Oneiric and Precise).

If you intend to script the mounting of these shares, this can be done with a combination of parameters in /etc/fstab. In special, there is a "credentials" parameter that you can use to inform a file (which must belong to root and have 0600 permission) with username, password and domain to your shared windows folders. Use it along with "user" parameter so you can mount/unmount it without root privileges, and "noauto" parameter, so it will be mounted only when you demand it.

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[José Queiroz]

Em 23 de fevereiro de 2012 11:05, Guus <[hidden email]> escreveu:

On 02/23/2012 12:07 PM, O. Sinclair wrote:

given that windows shares are normally on a LAN I kind of doubt anyone with a stolen computer will access them. I would like to know the answer myself as I go nuts by having to put in the username and password every time I connect to one of the windows servers I frequently work with

Sinclair

Hey Sinclair,

You may be right if its on a LAN (and they dont take your server as well xD). Still, I have become very careful with storing passwords in browsers and other applications because I have seen the consequences.
Reading your response I was wondering why you bother with a password at all, given that the shares are not publicly accessible.

Guus Bonnema.

Hi Gus,

Several browsers have a "master password" function that makes it a little harder to someone access saved passwords without proper permissions.

But if you're using a machine that you cannot trust by any reason --- in example, a cybercafe --- the best option is use "private mode browsing", or at least remember to clear all saved data (sessions, passwords, cookies, etc) prior leaving the machine.

The worst option of all is have no passwords. The fact that a share have no public access doesn't means that everyone that can connect to it have rights to access it. Even on a SOHO environment, there may be reasons to one person to keep some files away from its near users.

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[Tom Bell-2]

On 02/23/2012 06:07 AM, O. Sinclair wrote:

> /* snip*/
>>
>
>
> given that windows shares are normally on a LAN I kind of doubt anyone
> with a stolen computer will access them. I would like to know the
> answer myself as I go nuts by having to put in the username and
> password every time I connect to one of the windows servers I
> frequently work with
>
> Sinclair
>

I use LastPass (http://lastpass.com/index.php).  I can not only store
passwords, but it will allow me to use
Firefox to login automatically.  I can select to copy any username for
the different sites and any password.
The user IDs and passwords are stored securely online so I can share the
information with all my
computers and it can be password protected, giving secure access to the
information.
Many Windows users do not protect their laptops or desktops with a
password making password storage
a problem unless it is protected by a password.
Just FYI!
Good luck!

Tom

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[Guus Bonnema]

On 02/23/2012 02:39 PM, [hidden email] wrote:
> On 23.02.2012 14:14, Guus wrote:On 02/23/2012 02:05 PM, Guus wrote:
>   If you really want this automated, why not create a script that mounts the share with the password in it? Make sure the script is only readable and writable by you or by root, and only executable by others or not.
> Then execute the script either at startup or at logon.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Guus.
>   Problem with this is, that root mounts the drives then and the normal user does not have rights to write files in these shared folders, as far as i know. That was the problem that I always had when I scripted it directly in /etc/fstab. Btw. I'm in an enterprise environment.
>
Try out some of the mount options. Maybe you can pre-determine who is
declared owner of the files.

For example, I used to mount a windows partition (NTFS) with root, where
I entered the UID and GID to conform to my regular user.
Try this out for your file system and see if it works. For NTFS i added
the option uid=1000,gid=1000.

The man page explains as follows:

"
Mount options for ntfs
<snip other doc options >
        uid=value, gid=value and umask=value
               Set the file permission on the filesystem.  The umask
value is given in octal.  By default, the files are owned by root and
not readable by somebody else.

"

Ofcourse you will probably be using smbmount. Havent got it installed,
but you can look it up on your own system. Hope this helps.

Guus Bonnema.


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