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Ian A. Taylor
Sir/Madam

I have a  HP EliteBook 840 G6 Notebook onto which I have installed
Ubuntu 18.04

However when I try a power suspend I cannot wake up the laptop

(Unless I hard power cycle it)

The system is running

Ubuntu 18.04.4 LTS ; kernel 5.3.0-45-generic

In my journal I do see a line

[drm:intel_mst_disable_dp [i915] *ERROR* failed to update payload -22


an lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 returns

00:02:0 VGA compatible controller [0300] Intel Corporation Device
[8086:3ea0] (rev 02)

              Susbsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device [103c:9549]

              Kernel driver in use : i915

              Kernel modules: i915


ubuntu-drivers devices returns

modalias    : pci:v00008086d00002723sv00008086sd00000084bc02sc80i00

vendor        : Intel Corporation

manual_install    : True

driver         : backport-iwlwifi-dkms - distro free


Does anybody know of a solution to this issue ?


Thanking you.

Yours sincerely



Ian Taylor
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Re: Power Suspend Issue on HP EliteBook 840 G6 Notebook & 18.04

Colin Law
On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 at 10:05, Ian A. Taylor <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Sir/Madam
>
> I have a  HP EliteBook 840 G6 Notebook onto which I have installed
> Ubuntu 18.04
>
> However when I try a power suspend I cannot wake up the laptop

Is it showing the blinking suspend led, or whatever the normal suspend
is on that machine?

This might be helpful
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelSuspend

Colin

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Re: Power Suspend Issue on HP EliteBook 840 G6 Notebook & 18.04

Liam Proven
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On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 at 11:05, Ian A. Taylor <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> Does anybody know of a solution to this issue ?

The BIOS was updated as recently as February:

HP BIOS and System Firmware (R70)
01.04.05 Rev.A
19.2 MB
Feb 22, 2020

https://support.hp.com/us-en/drivers/selfservice/hp-elitebook-840-g6-notebook-pc/26609796

I recommend updating that before trying anything else.

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Re: Power Suspend Issue on HP EliteBook 840 G6 Notebook & 18.04

Colin Law
On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 at 11:21, Liam Proven <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 at 11:05, Ian A. Taylor <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> >
> > Does anybody know of a solution to this issue ?
>
> The BIOS was updated as recently as February:
>
> HP BIOS and System Firmware (R70)
> 01.04.05 Rev.A
> 19.2 MB
> Feb 22, 2020
>
> https://support.hp.com/us-en/drivers/selfservice/hp-elitebook-840-g6-notebook-pc/26609796
>
> I recommend updating that before trying anything else.

+1 to that.

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Re: Power Suspend Issue on HP EliteBook 840 G6 Notebook & 18.04 - SOLVED

Ian A. Taylor
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Liam

Thank you very much

Upgrading the BIOS appears to have solved this

The upgrade web page, works best in windows

Fortunately this machine was dual boot and I managed to get the BIOS
installed that way

But the main thing thing is that the issue is resolved

Many thanks

Regards

Ian Taylor


On 08/04/2020 11:19, Liam Proven wrote:

> On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 at 11:05, Ian A. Taylor <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Does anybody know of a solution to this issue ?
> The BIOS was updated as recently as February:
>
> HP BIOS and System Firmware (R70)
> 01.04.05 Rev.A
> 19.2 MB
> Feb 22, 2020
>
> https://support.hp.com/us-en/drivers/selfservice/hp-elitebook-840-g6-notebook-pc/26609796
>
> I recommend updating that before trying anything else.
>
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Thanking you.

Yours sincerely



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Re: Power Suspend Issue on HP EliteBook 840 G6 Notebook & 18.04 - SOLVED

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On Fri, 10 Apr 2020 09:37:43 +0100, Ian A. Taylor wrote:
>Fortunately this machine was dual boot and I managed to get the BIOS
>installed that way

"Update the BIOS manually from a USB Flash drive (outside of Windows)"
-
https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c00042629?jumpid=hpr_r1002_usen_link3

Does it mean that Windows is required even to update the BIOS by an USB
device? Wow! Nowadays almost all, if not all BIOS updates could be
downloaded by any operating system and be installed by the BIOS from
any device, USB Flash, USB HDD, SATA SSD etc..

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Re: Power Suspend Issue on HP EliteBook 840 G6 Notebook & 18.04 - SOLVED

Ian A. Taylor
Ralf

I not feel qualified to say what I think you are suggesting here

What I experienced was that when I booted the laptop in linux and went
to that page

Then it didn't find anything

Sorry I forget the message it displayed

But when I went in windows I was able to get the update and install it

That is what I experienced

Regards

Ian T


On 10/04/2020 11:27, Ralf Mardorf via ubuntu-users wrote:

> On Fri, 10 Apr 2020 09:37:43 +0100, Ian A. Taylor wrote:
>> Fortunately this machine was dual boot and I managed to get the BIOS
>> installed that way
> "Update the BIOS manually from a USB Flash drive (outside of Windows)"
> -
> https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c00042629?jumpid=hpr_r1002_usen_link3
>
> Does it mean that Windows is required even to update the BIOS by an USB
> device? Wow! Nowadays almost all, if not all BIOS updates could be
> downloaded by any operating system and be installed by the BIOS from
> any device, USB Flash, USB HDD, SATA SSD etc..
>
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Thanking you.

Yours sincerely



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Re: Power Suspend Issue on HP EliteBook 840 G6 Notebook & 18.04 - SOLVED

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On Fri, 10 Apr 2020 11:34:35 +0100, Ian A. Taylor wrote:

>On 10/04/2020 11:27, Ralf Mardorf via ubuntu-users wrote:
>> On Fri, 10 Apr 2020 09:37:43 +0100, Ian A. Taylor wrote:  
>>> Fortunately this machine was dual boot and I managed to get the BIOS
>>> installed that way  
>> "Update the BIOS manually from a USB Flash drive (outside of
>> Windows)" -
>> https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c00042629?jumpid=hpr_r1002_usen_link3
>>
>> Does it mean that Windows is required even to update the BIOS by an
>> USB device? Wow! Nowadays almost all, if not all BIOS updates could
>> be downloaded by any operating system and be installed by the BIOS
>> from any device, USB Flash, USB HDD, SATA SSD etc..
>
>I not feel qualified to say what I think you are suggesting here
>
>What I experienced was that when I booted the laptop in linux and went
>to that page
>
>Then it didn't find anything
>
>Sorry I forget the message it displayed
>
>But when I went in windows I was able to get the update and install it
>
>That is what I experienced

There seems to be the need to download a Windows executable, even to
get the BIOS upgrade on an USB stick. It probably works on Linux, after
installing https://packages.ubuntu.com/eoan/wine .


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Re: Power Suspend Issue on HP EliteBook 840 G6 Notebook & 18.04 - SOLVED

Liam Proven
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On Fri, 10 Apr 2020 at 10:37, Ian A. Taylor <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Liam
>
> Thank you very much
>
> Upgrading the BIOS appears to have solved this

Great! Glad to hear that.

> The upgrade web page, works best in windows
>
> Fortunately this machine was dual boot and I managed to get the BIOS
> installed that way

Yes, sadly this is a common issue. Sometimes you can make a bootable
USB that will install the update, but you need Windows to extract the
files to create the USB key. It's very annoying; some programs won't
extract on another PC, as they check that they are on the correct
model.

This is one reason I always recommend people to dual-boot and all my
own PCs do. I get mocked for this sometimes but it makes life easier.

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Re: Power Suspend Issue on HP EliteBook 840 G6 Notebook & 18.04 - SOLVED

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On Fri, 10 Apr 2020 13:05:16 +0200, Liam Proven wrote:
>Sometimes you can make a bootable USB that will install the update,
>but you need Windows to extract the files to create the USB key. It's
>very annoying; some programs won't extract on another PC, as they
>check that they are on the correct model.

If so, it might fail for a guest running in a VM host pretending to run
on different hardware. This might not be the case for all VMs and also
not be an issue when running wine. I don't know, but it might be worth
testing in case the executable should check the hardware. However,it
seems to be of no importance here, since HP does ask for information
regarding the used hardware before downloading the Windows executable
and since HP mentions to use another Windows computer, if the HP
computer's Windows won't start. I doubt that the particular Windows
executable does check the hardware at all.

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Re: Power Suspend Issue on HP EliteBook 840 G6 Notebook & 18.04 - SOLVED

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On Fri, 10 Apr 2020 14:18:41 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

>On Fri, 10 Apr 2020 13:05:16 +0200, Liam Proven wrote:
>>Sometimes you can make a bootable USB that will install the update,
>>but you need Windows to extract the files to create the USB key. It's
>>very annoying; some programs won't extract on another PC, as they
>>check that they are on the correct model.  
>
>If so, it might fail for a guest running in a VM host pretending to run
>on different hardware. This might not be the case for all VMs and also
>not be an issue when running wine. I don't know, but it might be worth
>testing in case the executable should check the hardware. However,it
>seems to be of no importance here, since HP does ask for information
>regarding the used hardware before downloading the Windows executable
>and since HP mentions to use another Windows computer, if the HP
>computer's Windows won't start. I doubt that the particular Windows
>executable does check the hardware at all.

PS: As already pointed out before, for way more than a decade almost all
BIOS updates, if not all, are available as binaries that are neither
Windows, Linux or any other operating system executables. Those binaries
can be downloaded with any operating system and stored to either an USB
stick, formatted with some common FAT or nowadays often even to any
other drive formatted with some common FAT. In my experiences with even
aged mobos, let alone new mobos, it is not a "common issue", but no
issue at all.

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Re: Power Suspend Issue on HP EliteBook 840 G6 Notebook & 18.04 - SOLVED

Liam Proven
On Fri, 10 Apr 2020 at 14:35, Ralf Mardorf via ubuntu-users
<[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> PS: As already pointed out before, for way more than a decade almost all
> BIOS updates, if not all, are available as binaries that are neither
> Windows, Linux or any other operating system executables. Those binaries
> can be downloaded with any operating system and stored to either an USB
> stick, formatted with some common FAT or nowadays often even to any
> other drive formatted with some common FAT. In my experiences with even
> aged mobos, let alone new mobos, it is not a "common issue", but no
> issue at all.

*Wearily*

Trust me on this. We are only 25% of the way through 2020 but it has
already affected me _this year_. Remember that I work for a distro
vendor, so it is normal in our workplace that most of the machine run
only Linux and nothing else.

There must me a more elegant way to express this, but I do not know
it. It should be a maxim or a saying.

It doesn't matter how many people something works for, if it *doesn't*
work for just one person.

This is one of the axioms of computer journalism, especially
reviewing. Most people will be happy with something most of the time,
which means it doesn't really matter -- it is fine. It's when someone,
using it correctly in the approved manner, finds that it _doesn't_
work -- *that* is the problem.

E.g. I once reviewed an (I think) Siemens-Nixdorf PC. It had the
headphone socket on the front. Nice touch. But if you took the lid
off, then you found that they achieved this by routing an audio cable
from pins at the back of the machine, stretched right across the
motherboard, to a socket at the front, and it wasn't a socketed
connector, it was soldered.

To replace the motherboard, you had to remove that cable. If you
didn't note which way round it was plugged in, you could connect it
wrongly: it went both ways.

To give a minor convenience boost to the users, the makers made a
massive drop in convenience for engineers. That is a problem.  That's
bad design and that is the sort of thing a review should pick up on
and highlight.

I have a Dell PC that won't boot Linux off its own hard disk unless
Windows is on there first due to poor UEFI implementation. I have a
Thinkpad whose BIOS updates are in a Windows self-extractor which
doesn't run under WINE & can't be opened with 7zip or any other
extractor I tried -- but the Thinkpad doesn't have an MS OS on it.
When MS shipped the Office XP service pack to users on CD, the CD was
half full of self-extractors that extract to the current working
directory. They can't be installed from CD and they can't be extracted
from CD. You have to copy them to HD, then extract, then install --
which restarted the 1%-100% progress bar _seven times over_ -- and
then remove the working files.

These  are all small niggles that can be worked around, and that won't
affect most people. Those updates were designed to be downloaded, but
a 450MB download in 2001 was _huge_ -- and the person who made the
master CD that was professionally duplicated, with a hologram etc --
did not think before they did it.

These are small problems, or ones that affect only a few, but those
are the important problems.

The big ones get most people most of the time, and those ones get
caught by any vaguely professional organisation.

It's the little ones that only come up occasionally that matter.

And because of them, advice or documentation or how-tos or README
files that say "just do this" are *bad*. Because you need to think
about the edge cases. Those are the ones that make people look to the
instructions, or the mailing list, or the web fora.

UEFI problems are real and happen. Most people may never see them so
that's why it's important to talk about how to get round them: because
someone somewhere will really need that. The dozens of people who've
told me I'm wrong *are wrong* because I have seen things they have not
seen. Their conclusion is I am wrong, I am incompetent, this never
happens. They are wrong.

Do not generalise from "this works for me" to "this works". Don't go
from "I never had a problem" to "there is no problem".

Most people never get struck by lightning. But lightning _does_ strike
people, and therefore, advice on how to avoid it, like don't stand in
open areas in a thunderstorm, is important and useful advice.

I spent 25y fixing tens of thousands of PCs and Macs and servers and
obscure proprietary machines. I have seen problems most people never
dreamed about.

The fact that something is fine on 99% of PCs 99% of the time is not
important. Knowing the 1% problem that happens 1% of the time is
important. Saying it doesn't happen because you've never seen it is
not only very annoying to the people in the 1%, it is actively
harmful.

So _please_ don't. OK?





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Re: Power Suspend Issue on HP EliteBook 840 G6 Notebook & 18.04 - SOLVED

Key Schmidt-3


On 2020-04-11 13:07, Liam Proven wrote:

> On Fri, 10 Apr 2020 at 14:35, Ralf Mardorf via ubuntu-users
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> PS: As already pointed out before, for way more than a decade almost all
>> BIOS updates, if not all, are available as binaries that are neither
>> Windows, Linux or any other operating system executables. Those binaries
>> can be downloaded with any operating system and stored to either an USB
>> stick, formatted with some common FAT or nowadays often even to any
>> other drive formatted with some common FAT. In my experiences with even
>> aged mobos, let alone new mobos, it is not a "common issue", but no
>> issue at all.
>
> *Wearily*
>
> Trust me on this. We are only 25% of the way through 2020 but it has
> already affected me _this year_. Remember that I work for a distro
> vendor, so it is normal in our workplace that most of the machine run
> only Linux and nothing else.
>
> There must me a more elegant way to express this, but I do not know
> it. It should be a maxim or a saying.
>
> It doesn't matter how many people something works for, if it *doesn't*
> work for just one person.
>
> This is one of the axioms of computer journalism, especially
> reviewing. Most people will be happy with something most of the time,
> which means it doesn't really matter -- it is fine. It's when someone,
> using it correctly in the approved manner, finds that it _doesn't_
> work -- *that* is the problem.
>
> E.g. I once reviewed an (I think) Siemens-Nixdorf PC. It had the
> headphone socket on the front. Nice touch. But if you took the lid
> off, then you found that they achieved this by routing an audio cable
> from pins at the back of the machine, stretched right across the
> motherboard, to a socket at the front, and it wasn't a socketed
> connector, it was soldered.
>
> To replace the motherboard, you had to remove that cable. If you
> didn't note which way round it was plugged in, you could connect it
> wrongly: it went both ways.
>
> To give a minor convenience boost to the users, the makers made a
> massive drop in convenience for engineers. That is a problem.  That's
> bad design and that is the sort of thing a review should pick up on
> and highlight.
>
> I have a Dell PC that won't boot Linux off its own hard disk unless
> Windows is on there first due to poor UEFI implementation. I have a
> Thinkpad whose BIOS updates are in a Windows self-extractor which
> doesn't run under WINE & can't be opened with 7zip or any other
> extractor I tried -- but the Thinkpad doesn't have an MS OS on it.
> When MS shipped the Office XP service pack to users on CD, the CD was
> half full of self-extractors that extract to the current working
> directory. They can't be installed from CD and they can't be extracted
> from CD. You have to copy them to HD, then extract, then install --
> which restarted the 1%-100% progress bar _seven times over_ -- and
> then remove the working files.
>
> These  are all small niggles that can be worked around, and that won't
> affect most people. Those updates were designed to be downloaded, but
> a 450MB download in 2001 was _huge_ -- and the person who made the
> master CD that was professionally duplicated, with a hologram etc --
> did not think before they did it.
>
> These are small problems, or ones that affect only a few, but those
> are the important problems.
>
> The big ones get most people most of the time, and those ones get
> caught by any vaguely professional organisation.
>
> It's the little ones that only come up occasionally that matter.
>
> And because of them, advice or documentation or how-tos or README
> files that say "just do this" are *bad*. Because you need to think
> about the edge cases. Those are the ones that make people look to the
> instructions, or the mailing list, or the web fora.
>
> UEFI problems are real and happen. Most people may never see them so
> that's why it's important to talk about how to get round them: because
> someone somewhere will really need that. The dozens of people who've
> told me I'm wrong *are wrong* because I have seen things they have not
> seen. Their conclusion is I am wrong, I am incompetent, this never
> happens. They are wrong.
>
> Do not generalise from "this works for me" to "this works". Don't go
> from "I never had a problem" to "there is no problem".
>
> Most people never get struck by lightning. But lightning _does_ strike
> people, and therefore, advice on how to avoid it, like don't stand in
> open areas in a thunderstorm, is important and useful advice.
>
> I spent 25y fixing tens of thousands of PCs and Macs and servers and
> obscure proprietary machines. I have seen problems most people never
> dreamed about.
>
> The fact that something is fine on 99% of PCs 99% of the time is not
> important. Knowing the 1% problem that happens 1% of the time is
> important. Saying it doesn't happen because you've never seen it is
> not only very annoying to the people in the 1%, it is actively
> harmful.
>
> So _please_ don't. OK?
>
>
>You are so right

Key Schmidt
>
>

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Re: Power Suspend Issue on HP EliteBook 840 G6 Notebook & 18.04 - SOLVED

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On Sat, 2020-04-11 at 19:52 +0200, Key Schmidt wrote:
> On 2020-04-11 13:07, Liam Proven wrote:
> >[snip]
>
> You are so right

No, he's very, very wrong.

He's completely mistaken regarding my original replies. The vendor
mentions on the original homepage that a different (Windows) computer
could be used to extract the executable, hence it most likely could be
done without a Windows install, by just extracting the executable using
wine. There's no need for the OP to do it with the machine that should
get the BIOS update.

Please read the whole thread. On Fri, 10 Apr 2020 12:50:05 +0200, I
wrote:

>There seems to be the need to download a Windows executable, even to
>get the BIOS upgrade on an USB stick. It probably works on Linux, after
>installing https://packages.ubuntu.com/eoan/wine .

IOW I mentioned that it is very unusual nowadays that the process to
update the BIOS is complicated, usually no Windows or DOS is required
anymore. The OP seems to have bad luck and seems to suffer from a corner
case, but I covered this, too.

Liam suggested that users always should go with a dual-boot, Windows and
Linux, because BIOS updates might require Windows on the machine that
should get the BIOS update.

Windows is not for free as in beer. IMO suggesting to buy and install
Windows, just to be able to do BIOS updates in corner cases is
ridiculous.

On Fri, 10 Apr 2020 13:05:16 +0200, Liam Proven wrote:
>This is one reason I always recommend people to dual-boot and all my
>own PCs do. I get mocked for this sometimes but it makes life easier.

"Mocked" for very good reasons, since it makes absolutely no sense for
somebody who doesn't need Windows, to buy and install Windows for such a
corner case, as the one you described and that doesn't apply to the OP's
situation at all. In the unusual case that even wine should fail to
extract such a simple Windows executable, the OP likely could asked
somebody who is using Windows, to do it.


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Re: Power Suspend Issue on HP EliteBook 840 G6 Notebook & 18.04 - SOLVED

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On 14/04/2020, Ralf Mardorf via ubuntu-users
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> On Sat, 2020-04-11 at 19:52 +0200, Key Schmidt wrote:
>> On 2020-04-11 13:07, Liam Proven wrote:
>> >[snip]
>>
>> You are so right
>
> No, he's very, very wrong.
>
> He's completely mistaken regarding my original replies. The vendor
> mentions on the original homepage that a different (Windows) computer
> could be used to extract the executable, hence it most likely could be
> done without a Windows install, by just extracting the executable using
> wine. There's no need for the OP to do it with the machine that should
> get the BIOS update.
>
> Please read the whole thread. On Fri, 10 Apr 2020 12:50:05 +0200, I
> wrote:
>
>>There seems to be the need to download a Windows executable, even to
>>get the BIOS upgrade on an USB stick. It probably works on Linux, after
>>installing https://packages.ubuntu.com/eoan/wine .
>
> IOW I mentioned that it is very unusual nowadays that the process to
> update the BIOS is complicated, usually no Windows or DOS is required
> anymore. The OP seems to have bad luck and seems to suffer from a corner
> case, but I covered this, too.
>
> Liam suggested that users always should go with a dual-boot, Windows and
> Linux, because BIOS updates might require Windows on the machine that
> should get the BIOS update.
>
> Windows is not for free as in beer. IMO suggesting to buy and install
> Windows, just to be able to do BIOS updates in corner cases is
> ridiculous.
>

Methinks this has kind of digressed from the topic of the thread, and,
mayhaps, should be forming a new thread, or, be abandoned....


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Re: Power Suspend Issue on HP EliteBook 840 G6 Notebook & 18.04 - SOLVED

Liam Proven
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On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 at 19:41, Ralf Mardorf via ubuntu-users
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*Even _more_ wearily*

OK, point by blasted point.

> He's completely mistaken regarding my original replies. The vendor
> mentions on the original homepage that a different (Windows) computer
> could be used to extract the executable, hence it most likely could be
> done without a Windows install, by just extracting the executable using
> wine.

Wrong. Why? Because a bad firmware update can permanently destroy a
motherboard. It is absolutely not worth taking a change that an
unapproved, best-attempt emulator can reliably run an extraction.

I run MS Word under WINE. I can _see_ any corruption that might
happen. I can trivially easily verify that a document is good by
opening it in LibreOffice.

One cannot do so with a BIOS update. One is relying on checksums and
checksums can be fooled.

> There's no need for the OP to do it with the machine that should
> get the BIOS update.

This is so ill-advised I have no choice but to call it foolhardy.

> IOW I mentioned that it is very unusual nowadays

This is _precisely_ what I was addressing, explicitly and clearly. By
"very unusual" you mean "I have not seen it".

Others _have_ seen it.

Ralf, you run a budget motherboard with a Celeron in, as I recall,
replacing a decade-old machine.

I am guessing that you do not get to use expensive enterprise kit much.

I do.

What you are saying is _not true_ of all PC equipment. Unless your
experience runs from budget built-it-yourself kit up to entrprise
workstations up to high-end servers, _you do not know_.


> that the process to
> update the BIOS is complicated, usually no Windows or DOS is required
> anymore.

"Usually" is not good enough.

> The OP seems to have bad luck and seems to suffer from a corner
> case, but I covered this, too.

Not enough you did not, no.

> Liam suggested that users always should go with a dual-boot, Windows and
> Linux, because BIOS updates might require Windows on the machine that
> should get the BIOS update.

Yes.

> Windows is not for free as in beer. IMO suggesting to buy and install
> Windows, just to be able to do BIOS updates in corner cases is
> ridiculous.

You did not read or did not understand my message, then.

I said *nothing* about *buying* Windows.

• Windows 10 is a free upgrade from 7, 8 or 8.1. Yes, even now, in 2020.

• You do not need to upgrade; you can clean-install & activate with an
old 7/8/8.1 key.

• The ISO is a free download from Microsoft.com (i.e. guaranteed
genuine, no piracy or crack required)

• Many UEFI machines have the key in the firmware and self-activate
automatically. No key entry required.

• For older machines, especially laptops and business desktops, the
key is on a sticker on the case.

• You do not need to activate to do a BIOS upgrade. An unactivated
copy will do this fine. Un-activated Win10 is completely functional
and does not nag like Vista/7/8/8.1. It limits customisation instead.
MS has finally realised that a pool of cracked machines is a security
hazard and compromises herd immunity, just like antivaxxers do in
humans.

Now please stop giving harmful and dangerous advice.

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Re: Power Suspend Issue on HP EliteBook 840 G6 Notebook & 18.04 - SOLVED

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On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 12:46:21 +0200, Liam Proven wrote:
>I am guessing that you do not get to use expensive enterprise kit much.
>
>I do.
>
>What you are saying is _not true_ of all PC equipment. Unless your
>experience runs from budget built-it-yourself kit up to entrprise
>workstations up to high-end servers, _you do not know_.

It's true for the laptop of the OP. It's a HP EliteBook 840 G6 Notebook.

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Sweex WebCam

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Sir/Madam

Is it possible to get a

SWEEX WC067 to work with Ubuntu ?

Regards

Ian T


On 08/04/2020 10:03, Ian A. Taylor wrote:

> Sir/Madam
>
> I have a  HP EliteBook 840 G6 Notebook onto which I have installed
> Ubuntu 18.04
>
> However when I try a power suspend I cannot wake up the laptop
>
> (Unless I hard power cycle it)
>
> The system is running
>
> Ubuntu 18.04.4 LTS ; kernel 5.3.0-45-generic
>
> In my journal I do see a line
>
> [drm:intel_mst_disable_dp [i915] *ERROR* failed to update payload -22
>
>
> an lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 returns
>
> 00:02:0 VGA compatible controller [0300] Intel Corporation Device
> [8086:3ea0] (rev 02)
>
>              Susbsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device [103c:9549]
>
>              Kernel driver in use : i915
>
>              Kernel modules: i915
>
>
> ubuntu-drivers devices returns
>
> modalias    : pci:v00008086d00002723sv00008086sd00000084bc02sc80i00
>
> vendor        : Intel Corporation
>
> manual_install    : True
>
> driver         : backport-iwlwifi-dkms - distro free
>
>
> Does anybody know of a solution to this issue ?
>
>
> Thanking you.
>
> Yours sincerely
>
>
>
> Ian Taylor
> University of St.Andrews,
> School of Physics & Astronomy,
> North Haugh,
> St.Andrews,
> Fife  KY16 9SS,
> Scotland.
>
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> The University of St Andrews
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> Scotland : No SC013532.
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Thanking you.

Yours sincerely



Ian Taylor
University of St.Andrews,
School of Physics & Astronomy,
North Haugh,
St.Andrews,
Fife  KY16 9SS,
Scotland.

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Re: Sweex WebCam

Liam Proven
On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 at 09:31, Ian Taylor via ubuntu-users
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>
> Sir/Madam

Well, neither... It's a group.

> Is it possible to get a
>
> SWEEX WC067 to work with Ubuntu ?

http://blog.swanastro.org.uk/2011/03/moon-with-sweex-wc067-hd-webcam-under.html

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