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Re: xubuntu-devel Digest, Vol 182, Issue 5: Xubuntu on Pinebook Pro looking good but needs access to internet

Joel Carlson-2
We have tried everything to access the internet including Pine logo + F11, etc. but so far no success. That is probably why we can't add software and have a complete working system. A solution would be appreciated. Thanks, Joel

On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 7:33 AM Joel Carlson <[hidden email]> wrote:
We can't access and install synaptic, gnome disks, gparted, gsmartcontrol, hardinfo, xfburn, clonezilla, gufw, clamav, nautilus, xsane, vlc, libreoffice, k3b, gimp, googleearth, etc. Otherwise it looks good, (see attached). Joel

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Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2020 08:06:57 -0800
From: Joel Carlson <[hidden email]>
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Hi: I installed
https://github.com/ayufan-rock64/linux-build/releases/download/0.10.12/focal-xfce4-pinebookpro-0.10.12-1184-arm64.img.xz
on an sd card. It looks good but I can't login to rock64 or other. I had a
similar problem with the Mate version but kept trying things and got lucky.
A login explanation would be appreciated. I also tried the Manjaro xfce
version but found it unsatisfactory. Joel

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> If you dive into these links, etc. even further you will see xubuntu
> on pinebook pro kind of does exist:
>
>
> https://github.com/ayufan-rock64/linux-build/releases/download/0.10.12/focal-xfce4-pinebookpro-0.10.12-1184-arm64.img.xz
>
> maybe this should be added as an official image? I've a sneaky
> suspicion we will see a raspberry pi laptop in the next year or so
> which may have the best support. Supporting Apple M1 laptops would be
> great, some people are looking into that already, there always seems
> to be a struggle with getting Apple products running Linux though.
> Apple seem to have no interest in cooperating.
>
> You can install ubuntu apps on chromebooks fairly easily though with
> LXD/LXC.
>
>
> On Sun, 6 Dec 2020 at 23:37, Stephen Kellat <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, Dec 06, 2020 at 03:11:29PM -0800, Joel Carlson wrote:
> > > The ARM processor Pinebook Pro has most other Linux distributions but
> > > apparently not Xubuntu. This should be a priority because other ARM
> > > processor computers are coming soon! Thanks, Joel
> >
> > This would be a matter of resource allocation.  When I consult the list
> of available images known to the Pinebook's manufacturer at
> https://wiki.pine64.org/wiki/Pinebook_Pro#Pinebook_Pro_images I get this:
> >
> > elementary OS 6 (microSD and eMMC Boot)
> > Manjaro ARM (microSD and eMMC Boot)
> > Debian Desktop (microSD and eMMC Boot)
> > Bionic LXDE (microSD and eMMC Boot)
> > Bionic Mate (microSD and eMMC Boot)
> > Fedora (microSD and eMMC Boot)
> > OpenSUSE (microSD and eMMC Boot)
> > Q4OS (microSD and eMMC Boot)
> > Armbian (microSD and eMMC Boot)
> > NetBSD (microSD and eMMC Boot)
> > OpenBSD release for ARM64
> > Chromium (microSD and eMMC Boot)
> > Arch Linux ARM installer (microSD and USB boot)
> > Android 7.1 (microSD Boot)
> > Android 7.1 (eMMC)
> > Debian Installer for Pinebook Pro
> > Gentoo Script for Pinebook Pro
> > Kali Script for Pinebook Pro (microSD and eMMC Boot)
> >
> > The page here has more specifics as to each build and how unofficial
> each are: https://wiki.pine64.org/wiki/Pinebook_Pro_Software_Release
> >
> > This looks wonderful but the other flavours of Ubuntu have not taken
> action officially towards it either.  The only ARM platform supported by
> Ubuntu is Raspberry Pi.  I still have some questions pending about how
> Xubuntu can build off the work already done so that we might build our own
> images but there are bits and bobs that Canonical needs to finish up first.
> >
> > For now getting all the flavours of Ubuntu building images for Raspberry
> Pi without the dodge of desktopify is a big challenge with possibly a
> larger installed base to approach.  Others may have something to say on
> this but that is my understanding of where things stand at the immediate
> moment.
> >
> > Stephen Michael Kellat
> >
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Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2020 16:06:27 -0800
From: Joel Carlson <[hidden email]>
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When I login with rock64 username and rock64 password it says below
Changing password for rock64 in yellow. It kept saying bad password because
I used a six character password. When I used a 10 character password it
worked. Hope this helps someone else trying to login. Joel

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 8:06 AM Joel Carlson <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi: I installed
> https://github.com/ayufan-rock64/linux-build/releases/download/0.10.12/focal-xfce4-pinebookpro-0.10.12-1184-arm64.img.xz
> on an sd card. It looks good but I can't login to rock64 or other. I had a
> similar problem with the Mate version but kept trying things and got lucky.
> A login explanation would be appreciated. I also tried the Manjaro xfce
> version but found it unsatisfactory. Joel
>
> On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 6:20 AM <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
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>>    1. Re: Xubuntu needed for Pinebook Pro (Eric Curtin)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2020 10:45:34 +0000
>> From: Eric Curtin <[hidden email]>
>> To: Xubuntu Development Discussion <[hidden email]>
>> Subject: Re: Xubuntu needed for Pinebook Pro
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>> If you dive into these links, etc. even further you will see xubuntu
>> on pinebook pro kind of does exist:
>>
>>
>> https://github.com/ayufan-rock64/linux-build/releases/download/0.10.12/focal-xfce4-pinebookpro-0.10.12-1184-arm64.img.xz
>>
>> maybe this should be added as an official image? I've a sneaky
>> suspicion we will see a raspberry pi laptop in the next year or so
>> which may have the best support. Supporting Apple M1 laptops would be
>> great, some people are looking into that already, there always seems
>> to be a struggle with getting Apple products running Linux though.
>> Apple seem to have no interest in cooperating.
>>
>> You can install ubuntu apps on chromebooks fairly easily though with
>> LXD/LXC.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 6 Dec 2020 at 23:37, Stephen Kellat <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > On Sun, Dec 06, 2020 at 03:11:29PM -0800, Joel Carlson wrote:
>> > > The ARM processor Pinebook Pro has most other Linux distributions but
>> > > apparently not Xubuntu. This should be a priority because other ARM
>> > > processor computers are coming soon! Thanks, Joel
>> >
>> > This would be a matter of resource allocation.  When I consult the list
>> of available images known to the Pinebook's manufacturer at
>> https://wiki.pine64.org/wiki/Pinebook_Pro#Pinebook_Pro_images I get this:
>> >
>> > elementary OS 6 (microSD and eMMC Boot)
>> > Manjaro ARM (microSD and eMMC Boot)
>> > Debian Desktop (microSD and eMMC Boot)
>> > Bionic LXDE (microSD and eMMC Boot)
>> > Bionic Mate (microSD and eMMC Boot)
>> > Fedora (microSD and eMMC Boot)
>> > OpenSUSE (microSD and eMMC Boot)
>> > Q4OS (microSD and eMMC Boot)
>> > Armbian (microSD and eMMC Boot)
>> > NetBSD (microSD and eMMC Boot)
>> > OpenBSD release for ARM64
>> > Chromium (microSD and eMMC Boot)
>> > Arch Linux ARM installer (microSD and USB boot)
>> > Android 7.1 (microSD Boot)
>> > Android 7.1 (eMMC)
>> > Debian Installer for Pinebook Pro
>> > Gentoo Script for Pinebook Pro
>> > Kali Script for Pinebook Pro (microSD and eMMC Boot)
>> >
>> > The page here has more specifics as to each build and how unofficial
>> each are: https://wiki.pine64.org/wiki/Pinebook_Pro_Software_Release
>> >
>> > This looks wonderful but the other flavours of Ubuntu have not taken
>> action officially towards it either.  The only ARM platform supported by
>> Ubuntu is Raspberry Pi.  I still have some questions pending about how
>> Xubuntu can build off the work already done so that we might build our own
>> images but there are bits and bobs that Canonical needs to finish up first.
>> >
>> > For now getting all the flavours of Ubuntu building images for
>> Raspberry Pi without the dodge of desktopify is a big challenge with
>> possibly a larger installed base to approach.  Others may have something to
>> say on this but that is my understanding of where things stand at the
>> immediate moment.
>> >
>> > Stephen Michael Kellat
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
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Re: xubuntu-devel Digest, Vol 182, Issue 5: Xubuntu on Pinebook Pro looking good but needs access to internet

Stephen Kellat
Joel,

A big problem is that the image posted to GitHub wasn’t made by us.  I don’t have a Pinebook to test it on to see what was done under the hood to see how far it diverges from what was actually released officially as ”Ubuntu” and its flavors.  As far as I can tell from digging around it diverges quite a bit.  Use of systemd idioms in the default configuration where Ubuntu doesn’t expect systemd apparently can lead to problems.

You’ll need to contact the originator of that particular downstream derivative for support.  Their profile on GitHub can be found here: https://github.com/ayufan

Stephen Michael Kellat 

On Dec 9, 2020, at 10:47 AM, Joel Carlson <[hidden email]> wrote:


We have tried everything to access the internet including Pine logo + F11, etc. but so far no success. That is probably why we can't add software and have a complete working system. A solution would be appreciated. Thanks, Joel

On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 7:33 AM Joel Carlson <[hidden email]> wrote:
We can't access and install synaptic, gnome disks, gparted, gsmartcontrol, hardinfo, xfburn, clonezilla, gufw, clamav, nautilus, xsane, vlc, libreoffice, k3b, gimp, googleearth, etc. Otherwise it looks good, (see attached). Joel

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