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Ralf Mardorf-2
Hi,

I plan to replace two drives [1]. I'll start with the small drive,
since it seems to reach end of life. Today everything was ok, but
sometimes it seemingly is the cause for serious issues.

The larger drive seems not to cause issues, but it's also very old.
I'll replace the large drive by a 1 or 2 TB HDD, but not right now. In
addition I'll stay with an external HDD for backups.

The small drive should be replaced by a

Toshiba OCZ TL100 SSD

https://www.reichelt.de/SSD-2-5-SATA/OCZ-TL100-240/3/index.html?ACTION=3&GROUPID=7294&ARTICLE=184616&OFFSET=16&SID=92WJOUx6wQATIAAGqHsTA1a58d1b95b56acbbb518dd4d82944ef5&LANGUAGE=EN

with a Corsair SSD Mounting Bracket

http://www.reichelt.de/Zubehoer-fuer-Laufwerke/CSSD-BRKT/3/index.html?ACTION=3&GROUPID=7296&ARTICLE=158140&OFFSET=16&SID=92WJOUx6wQATIAAGqHsTA1a58d1b95b56acbbb518dd4d82944ef5&LANGUAGE=EN

I'll use the SDD in the same way I used the HDD. I don't wish to do
special SSD treatments.

Is anything speaking against this SSD or is the mounting bracket known
to be incompatible with Linux >= 4.0 ;). It's an old BIOS mobo with
SATA, the manual mentions 3.0 Gb/s, so it's SATA 2.

I'm just asking, since I never use SSD. The company provides Linux
software to manage the SSD, e.g. to upgrade the firmware.

Regards,
Ralf

[1]
=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family:     SAMSUNG SpinPoint T166
Device Model:     SAMSUNG HD321KJ
Serial Number:    S0MQJ9AQ308387
LU WWN Device Id: 5 0000f0 09b308387
Firmware Version: CP100-12
User Capacity:    320,072,933,376 bytes [320 GB]
Sector Size:      512 bytes logical/physical
Device is:        In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
ATA Version is:   ATA8-ACS T13/1699-D revision 3b
SATA Version is:  SATA 2.5, 3.0 Gb/s
Local Time is:    Thu Feb  2 23:34:39 2017 CET

ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x000f   100   100   051    Pre-fail  Always       -       49
  3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0007   100   100   015    Pre-fail  Always       -       5888
  4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0032   093   093   000    Old_age   Always       -       7818
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   253   253   010    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x000f   253   253   051    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  8 Seek_Time_Performance   0x0025   253   253   015    Pre-fail  Offline      -       0
  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       44851
 10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0033   253   253   051    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
 11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0012   253   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
 12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   096   096   000    Old_age   Always       -       4149
 13 Read_Soft_Error_Rate    0x000e   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       7440085
187 Reported_Uncorrect      0x0032   253   253   000    Old_age   Always       -       327680
188 Command_Timeout         0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       11
190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0022   067   055   000    Old_age   Always       -       33
194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0022   133   103   000    Old_age   Always       -       35
195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered  0x001a   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       7440085
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032   253   253   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
197 Total_Pending_Sectors   0x0012   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       3
198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0030   253   253   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x003e   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate   0x000a   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
201 Soft_Read_Error_Rate    0x000a   253   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
202 Data_Address_Mark_Errs  0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       6


=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family:     SAMSUNG SpinPoint F3
Device Model:     SAMSUNG HD502HJ
Serial Number:    S26EJ9FZ100925
LU WWN Device Id: 5 0024e9 201a60bff
Firmware Version: 1AJ10001
User Capacity:    500,107,862,016 bytes [500 GB]
Sector Size:      512 bytes logical/physical
Rotation Rate:    7200 rpm
Form Factor:      3.5 inches
Device is:        In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
ATA Version is:   ATA8-ACS T13/1699-D revision 6
SATA Version is:  SATA 2.6, 3.0 Gb/s
Local Time is:    Thu Feb  2 23:34:40 2017 CET

ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x002f   100   100   051    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  2 Throughput_Performance  0x0026   252   252   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
  3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0023   082   080   025    Pre-fail  Always       -       5459
  4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0032   098   098   000    Old_age   Always       -       2666
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   252   252   010    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x002e   252   252   051    Old_age   Always       -       0
  8 Seek_Time_Performance   0x0024   252   252   015    Old_age   Offline      -       0
  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       36788
 10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0032   252   252   051    Old_age   Always       -       0
 11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0032   252   252   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
 12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   098   098   000    Old_age   Always       -       2766
 13 Read_Soft_Error_Rate    0x003a   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
191 G-Sense_Error_Rate      0x0022   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       843
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0022   252   252   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       2804
194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0002   063   051   000    Old_age   Always       -       37 (Min/Max 13/49)
195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered  0x003a   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032   252   252   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0032   252   252   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0030   252   252   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x0036   098   098   000    Old_age   Always       -       1216
200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate   0x002a   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       82
240 Head_Flying_Hours       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       36788
241 Total_LBAs_Written      0x0032   097   094   000    Old_age   Always       -       4156530
242 Total_LBAs_Read         0x0032   097   094   000    Old_age   Always       -       4965507
254 Free_Fall_Sensor        0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       1


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Re: SSD

MR ZenWiz
On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Ralf Mardorf <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
:

>
> Toshiba OCZ TL100 SSD
>
> https://www.reichelt.de/SSD-2-5-SATA/OCZ-TL100-240/3/index.html?ACTION=3&GROUPID=7294&ARTICLE=184616&OFFSET=16&SID=92WJOUx6wQATIAAGqHsTA1a58d1b95b56acbbb518dd4d82944ef5&LANGUAGE=EN
>
> with a Corsair SSD Mounting Bracket
>
> http://www.reichelt.de/Zubehoer-fuer-Laufwerke/CSSD-BRKT/3/index.html?ACTION=3&GROUPID=7296&ARTICLE=158140&OFFSET=16&SID=92WJOUx6wQATIAAGqHsTA1a58d1b95b56acbbb518dd4d82944ef5&LANGUAGE=EN
>
> I'll use the SDD in the same way I used the HDD. I don't wish to do
> special SSD treatments.
>
> Is anything speaking against this SSD or is the mounting bracket known
> to be incompatible with Linux >= 4.0 ;). It's an old BIOS mobo with
> SATA, the manual mentions 3.0 Gb/s, so it's SATA 2.
>

I don't see how the mounting bracket would have anything to do with OS
compatibility.  In general the OS doesn't care how you put the
hardware together as long as the interfaces are properly connected.

I recently added a Patriot SSD to be my boot and root drive, and it
works just fine.  No compatibility issues so far.  It's a Patriot
Spark 256GB SATA6 drive, and it gallops nicely.

Even your old MOBO at 3Gb/s should be fine, though the drive will not
operate at full speed.

Good luck.
MR

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Re: SSD

Ralf Mardorf-2
Hi,

On Thu, 2 Feb 2017 15:12:48 -0800, MR ZenWiz wrote:

>On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Ralf Mardorf <[hidden email]>
>wrote:
>> Hi,
>>  
>:
>>
>> Toshiba OCZ TL100 SSD
>>
>> https://www.reichelt.de/SSD-2-5-SATA/OCZ-TL100-240/3/index.html?ACTION=3&GROUPID=7294&ARTICLE=184616&OFFSET=16&SID=92WJOUx6wQATIAAGqHsTA1a58d1b95b56acbbb518dd4d82944ef5&LANGUAGE=EN
>>
>> with a Corsair SSD Mounting Bracket
>>
>> http://www.reichelt.de/Zubehoer-fuer-Laufwerke/CSSD-BRKT/3/index.html?ACTION=3&GROUPID=7296&ARTICLE=158140&OFFSET=16&SID=92WJOUx6wQATIAAGqHsTA1a58d1b95b56acbbb518dd4d82944ef5&LANGUAGE=EN
>>
>> I'll use the SDD in the same way I used the HDD. I don't wish to do
>> special SSD treatments.
>>
>> Is anything speaking against this SSD or is the mounting bracket
>> known to be incompatible with Linux >= 4.0 ;). It's an old BIOS mobo
>> with SATA, the manual mentions 3.0 Gb/s, so it's SATA 2.
>>  
>
>I don't see how the mounting bracket would have anything to do with OS
>compatibility.  In general the OS doesn't care how you put the
>hardware together as long as the interfaces are properly connected.

Emoticon ;)

>I recently added a Patriot SSD to be my boot and root drive, and it
>works just fine.  No compatibility issues so far.  It's a Patriot
>Spark 256GB SATA6 drive, and it gallops nicely.
>
>Even your old MOBO at 3Gb/s should be fine, though the drive will not
>operate at full speed.

The dealer where I'll most likely order has got this one from Patriot:

https://www.reichelt.de/SSD-2-5-SATA/PBT240GS25SSDR/3/index.html?ACTION=3&LA=446&ARTICLE=170126&GROUPID=7294&artnr=PBT240GS25SSDR&SEARCH=patriot

It does cost 1.15 EUR less and they claim to provide 500000 hours more.
The data sheets don't show power consumption or cache for both SSDs. I
doubt that cache is very important. Unfortunately the Patriot homepage
doesn't provide the 240GB offered by my dealer and apart from this it's
not clear if the Firmware available for at least the 480GB and 960GB
versions could be upgraded using Linux. It's a zip archive and trying
to download it fails.

Another dealer offers your SSD quasi for the same price, 77.18 EUR, as
the OCZ, 77.95 EUR and Patriot Blast 76.80 EUR.  

Regards,
Ralf


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