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I am running Ubuntu 18.04.1 with no customizations

Where did the settings get move to as they are no longer on the settings icon?

Yesterday I had the system set up the way I wanted it.  An update was done and
now today the configuration of the monitors has changed.  I went to settings to
change it back to the way I wanted and the settings are no longer there.  I
also want to change the settings for system updates but they also seem to have
been moved somewhere else.

This is reminding me of MS where every update they change where things are
located and do not care about the users.  It appears the the Linux developers
are following MS and ignoring the users needs.

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Paul Smith-2
On Sat, 2018-09-29 at 11:59 -0700, Bob wrote:

> I am running Ubuntu 18.04.1 with no customizations
>
> Where did the settings get move to as they are no longer on the
> settings icon?
>
> Yesterday I had the system set up the way I wanted it.  An update was
> done and now today the configuration of the monitors has changed.  I
> went to settings to change it back to the way I wanted and the
> settings are no longer there.  I also want to change the settings for
> system updates but they also seem to have been moved somewhere else.

Unless the "update" you refer to above was a jump from an older release
of Ubuntu (such as 16.04 or similar) to 18.04, then nothing changed
about the location of settings I don't think.  It's odd that your
monitor configuration has changed: that's never happened to me before.

To be clear when you say "settings icon" etc. you are referring to the
"Settings" dialog, that you get either by clicking the screwdriver and
wrench icon in the drop-down from the panel, or by typing "settings"
into the heads-up display search bar?

This hasn't changed since 18.04 was released.

The display configuration is handled under the "Devices" tab on the
left side-bar of the "Settings" dialog.  Note that this entire side-bar
can scroll, and "Devices" is near the bottom, so check that you just
can't see it.  I filed a bug about this issue back when 18.04 was
released.

Once you click "Devices" you'll see a new side-bar with various devices
including "Displays".

As far as system updates, they have never been configurable via the
"Settings" dialog.

To configure system updates, you can search for "Software & Updates" in
the heads-up display search bar which will open a dialog.  The tab
"Updates" there will let you choose different options for checking,
handling security updates, and handling other types of updates.


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Colin Law
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On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 at 20:01, Bob <[hidden email]> wrote:
I am running Ubuntu 18.04.1 with no customizations

Where did the settings get move to as they are no longer on the settings icon?

Yesterday I had the system set up the way I wanted it.  An update was done and
now today the configuration of the monitors has changed.  I went to settings to
change it back to the way I wanted and the settings are no longer there.  I
also want to change the settings for system updates but they also seem to have
been moved somewhere else.

This is reminding me of MS where every update they change where things are
located and do not care about the users.  It appears the the Linux developers
are following MS and ignoring the users needs.


Hit the Windows Key (Also known as Super) then type settings in the search window.  Alternatively the Applications button on the Dash should allow you to search.

Colin
 
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Ralf Mardorf-2
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On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 11:59:50 -0700, Bob wrote:
>It appears the the Linux developers are following MS and ignoring the
>users needs.

My guess is, that a company selling an operating system needs to take
care about the majority of users, who pay for the operating system.
It's hard to believe that MS doesn't care about the majority of their
users. Perhaps you are mistaken regarding MS. However, you are at least
partial mistaken regarding Linux.

Ubuntu 18.04 with the default desktop environment GNOME is just a small
part of what a user could chose, to run on a Linux kernel.

Since I neither know your needs and skills, nor how good, bad or ugly
other desktop environments are maintained, it's not easy for me
to recommend another distro or another Ubuntu flavour.

Maybe you should test Ubuntu Mate. I prefer to use the window manager
openbox without a desktop environment and to handle settings by scripts
and command line, on Ubuntu and Arch Linux.


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Bob
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** Reply to message from Paul Smith <[hidden email]> on Sat, 29 Sep
2018 15:45:46 -0400

> On Sat, 2018-09-29 at 11:59 -0700, Bob wrote:
> > I am running Ubuntu 18.04.1 with no customizations
> >
> > Where did the settings get move to as they are no longer on the
> > settings icon?
> >
> > Yesterday I had the system set up the way I wanted it.  An update was
> > done and now today the configuration of the monitors has changed.  I
> > went to settings to change it back to the way I wanted and the
> > settings are no longer there.  I also want to change the settings for
> > system updates but they also seem to have been moved somewhere else.
>
> Unless the "update" you refer to above was a jump from an older release
> of Ubuntu (such as 16.04 or similar) to 18.04, then nothing changed
> about the location of settings I don't think.  

No change in release.


>It's odd that your
> monitor configuration has changed: that's never happened to me before.
>
> To be clear when you say "settings icon" etc. you are referring to the
> "Settings" dialog, that you get either by clicking the screwdriver and
> wrench icon in the drop-down from the panel, or by typing "settings"
> into the heads-up display search bar?

Yes.


> This hasn't changed since 18.04 was released.

On my system there are only 4 options

About
Date & Time
Users
Default Applications


> The display configuration is handled under the "Devices" tab on the
> left side-bar of the "Settings" dialog.  Note that this entire side-bar
> can scroll, and "Devices" is near the bottom, so check that you just
> can't see it.  I filed a bug about this issue back when 18.04 was
> released.

No scroll bars.


> Once you click "Devices" you'll see a new side-bar with various devices
> including "Displays".
>
> As far as system updates, they have never been configurable via the
> "Settings" dialog.

I know I have used them but can not remember where I found them.


> To configure system updates, you can search for "Software & Updates" in
> the heads-up display search bar which will open a dialog.  The tab
> "Updates" there will let you choose different options for checking,
> handling security updates, and handling other types of updates.

Thanks for that.  I have now changed them.  I do not like automatic updates, I
want to know when an update is being done.

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** Reply to message from Chris Pollock <[hidden email]> on Sat, 29 Sep
2018 15:32:53 -0500

> On Sat, 2018-09-29 at 11:59 -0700, Bob wrote:
> > I am running Ubuntu 18.04.1 with no customizations
> >
> > Where did the settings get move to as they are no longer on the
> > settings icon?
> >
> > Yesterday I had the system set up the way I wanted it.  An update was
> > done and
> > now today the configuration of the monitors has changed.  I went to
> > settings to
> > change it back to the way I wanted and the settings are no longer
> > there.  I
> > also want to change the settings for system updates but they also
> > seem to have
> > been moved somewhere else.
> >
> > This is reminding me of MS where every update they change where
> > things are
> > located and do not care about the users.  It appears the the Linux
> > developers
> > are following MS and ignoring the users needs.
> >
> Pardon the direct message however it seems like my posts are not making
> it to the list. Try this:
>
> In an empty window right click your mouse you should see "Change
> Backgro
> und, Display Setting,and Settings"

Now that brought up a completely different settings dialog, one with more
options then I get by either clicking the settings icon or typing settings in
the search field.  Maybe a user error, mine.

Now I need to fix the location of the data on the screen.  On the external
monitor the data has shifted to the left about 5/8 of an inch so you can not
read all the screen.

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Paul Smith-2
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On Sat, 2018-09-29 at 23:12 -0700, Bob wrote:
> > This hasn't changed since 18.04 was released.
>
> On my system there are only 4 options
>
> About
> Date & Time
> Users
> Default Applications

Thanks for that detail.  That explains everything.

This means that you're looking at the "Details" sub-menu in the
Settings dialog.

Look at the upper-left of the window and you'll see a left arrow "<"
button.  Click that to get back to the main window of settings and
you'll find all the other settings that you're missing.

If you look at that left-side menu at the bottom you'll see the
"Details" item and if you click it you'll again get back to the screen
you see now, with "About", "Date & Time", "Users", and "Default
Applications".

If instead of "Details" you select "Devices", you'll get where you need
to be to rearrange your screens.


I suppose it can be confusing that the Settings dialog remembers where
you last were and opens back up at that same panel, rather than
restarting at the root menu screen, but that's the way it's always
worked IIRC.

Cheers!


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Peter Flynn
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On 29/09/18 20:49, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 11:59:50 -0700, Bob wrote:
>> It appears the the Linux developers are following MS and ignoring
>> the users needs.
>
> My guess is, that a company selling an operating system needs to take
> care about the majority of users, who pay for the operating system.

Except that they don't, not directly. Microsoft users' copy of the OS is
paid for by their employer (if at work) or bundled into the cot of the
PC (for domestic use). Very few MS users actually realise this (most
probably assume it's free) but the cost is hidden. If they had to pay MS
separately and directly for their OS, I think things would be very
different.

> It's hard to believe that MS doesn't care about the majority of their
> users.

On the contrary, it's rather easy. MS are beholden first to their
stockholders, not to their users. If a setting gets broken in an update
(assuming it is not catastrophic, and easily fixed), MS may add it to
the (long) list of trivial changes to make, but MS Marketing decide
whether it gets fixed or not. Microsoft as a corporate entity is really
not interested in the details of individual users' configurations.

> Perhaps you are mistaken regarding MS. However, you are at least
> partial mistaken regarding Linux.

IMNSHE Linux developers care a *lot* about their users, and try hard to
make things work. But synchronisation of settings across so many
packages is hard, and needs reports from users to bring errors to the
attention of the people who can fix code.

Where Linux *does* break down is in the user interface; the behaviour of
individual items in the interface is handled by whatever library is
used, but the detail of what items are *called* (labelled) is largely up
to the individual developer. There are occasional serious mistakes: the
switch in scrollbar management to left-click = jump-to-location instead
of scroll-one-pane-full was ill-considered and largely unnecessary,
especially as it is not reflected in either Windows or Mac interfaces.
Fortunately, gross errors like that one are rare.

> Maybe you should test Ubuntu Mate.

I don't think the OP was looking for suggestions for an alternative. I
think he just wanted to find out why an update needed to destroy both
the monitor settings *and* the location of the settings icon in the
menus. This does seem unnecessary and unexpected, and should probably be
fixed or explained.

///Peter

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Bob
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** Reply to message from Paul Smith <[hidden email]> on Sun, 30 Sep
2018 09:53:48 -0400

> On Sat, 2018-09-29 at 23:12 -0700, Bob wrote:
> > > This hasn't changed since 18.04 was released.
> >
> > On my system there are only 4 options
> >
> > About
> > Date & Time
> > Users
> > Default Applications
>
> Thanks for that detail.  That explains everything.
>
> This means that you're looking at the "Details" sub-menu in the
> Settings dialog.
>
> Look at the upper-left of the window and you'll see a left arrow "<"
> button.  Click that to get back to the main window of settings and
> you'll find all the other settings that you're missing.

The problem was that the "<" was not on the screen.


> If you look at that left-side menu at the bottom you'll see the
> "Details" item and if you click it you'll again get back to the screen
> you see now, with "About", "Date & Time", "Users", and "Default
> Applications".
>
> If instead of "Details" you select "Devices", you'll get where you need
> to be to rearrange your screens.
>
>
> I suppose it can be confusing that the Settings dialog remembers where
> you last were and opens back up at that same panel, rather than
> restarting at the root menu screen, but that's the way it's always
> worked IIRC.

The confusing thing is that the screen has been shifted about 5/8 of an inch to
the left so you do not see all of the screen data.

When I started to add the second monitor I had problems.  If the monitor is
connected to the laptop with an HDMI cable it is unusable because of mouse
problems.  If the monitor is connected to the laptop with a VGA cable the
external monitor shifts the screen data 5/8 of an inch left.  Because of this I
was using the external monitor in mirror mode, that way all of a window was on
the screen and the task bar on the left of the screen was mostly off screen.
Then an update was done and the update must have changed the external screen to
join mode.  In join mode any window that comes up on external monitor has the
left side of the screen missing so the back arrow was not visible.

The next thing I need to do is find a fix for the shifted data on the external
monitor when it is connected with a VGA cable or a fix for the mouse problems
when the external monitor is connected with an HDMI cable.  So far no luck.

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Re: Settings

Colin Law
On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 at 18:41, Bob <[hidden email]> wrote:
...
The next thing I need to do is find a fix for the shifted data on the external
monitor when it is connected with a VGA cable or a fix for the mouse problems
when the external monitor is connected with an HDMI cable.  So far no luck.

Isn't there some sort of auto-sync selection in the monitor setup (on the monitor, not the PC)?

Colin


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Paul Smith-2
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On Sun, 2018-09-30 at 10:39 -0700, Bob wrote:
> The problem was that the "<" was not on the screen.

Oops!  It's usually a good idea to move the window so it's completely
visible :)

> The confusing thing is that the screen has been shifted about 5/8 of
> an inch to the left so you do not see all of the screen data.

I'm sure you've already investigated the hardware buttons on the
monitor?  For some monitors those can be used to shift the display
left/right/up/down.  If that's the problem then no amount of
software/driver updating will help.

Unfortunately there's not much else that we can say without knowing
many more details such as the type of laptop, the type of monitor, the
type of video card, etc. etc.

I recently got a new Dell laptop for work with a "plugable" docking
station which uses DisplayLink hardware to support (2) external
monitors.  It required a lot of tweaking to get the (proprietary)
DisplayLink drivers working.  Quite annoying.  It sounds like you are
using a direct connection rather than a docking station though.


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Bob
** Reply to message from Paul Smith <[hidden email]> on Mon, 01 Oct
2018 11:45:28 -0400

> On Sun, 2018-09-30 at 10:39 -0700, Bob wrote:
> > The problem was that the "<" was not on the screen.
>
> Oops!  It's usually a good idea to move the window so it's completely
> visible :)
>
> > The confusing thing is that the screen has been shifted about 5/8 of
> > an inch to the left so you do not see all of the screen data.
>
> I'm sure you've already investigated the hardware buttons on the
> monitor?  For some monitors those can be used to shift the display
> left/right/up/down.  If that's the problem then no amount of
> software/driver updating will help.
>
> Unfortunately there's not much else that we can say without knowing
> many more details such as the type of laptop, the type of monitor, the
> type of video card, etc. etc.
>
> I recently got a new Dell laptop for work with a "plugable" docking
> station which uses DisplayLink hardware to support (2) external
> monitors.  It required a lot of tweaking to get the (proprietary)
> DisplayLink drivers working.  Quite annoying.  It sounds like you are
> using a direct connection rather than a docking station though.

The little book that comes with the monitor was useless, I had looked at the
monitor setup but did not find anything that looked like a selection that would
move the screen.  I had to find the user manual for the display and download
it.  The menu items are not clear but with the manual I did find the
positioning information I needed.

So for now I have the external monitor working with a VGA cable.  I will need
to wait for a fix so the mouse works when the external monitor is connected
with an HDMI cable.

Thanks for everyone's help.

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> If the monitor is
> connected to the laptop with an HDMI cable it is unusable because of mouse
> problems.

This appears to be the nub of the issue here and you have not explained it.

What problems?
What kind of mouse?
Connected how?
Have you tried other mice or other connections?



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** Reply to message from Liam Proven <[hidden email]> on Mon, 8 Oct 2018
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> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2018 16:37:14 +0200
> From: Liam Proven <[hidden email]>
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: Settings
>
> On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 at 19:41, Bob <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > If the monitor is
> > connected to the laptop with an HDMI cable it is unusable because of mouse
> > problems.
>
> This appears to be the nub of the issue here and you have not explained it.
>
> What problems?
> What kind of mouse?
> Connected how?
> Have you tried other mice or other connections?

Looking at the old messages I did not elaborate on the mouse problems but I did
when I posted the original problem in a message with the subject "Problems with
dual moniters" which got no responses.

I am running Ubuntu 18.04.1 as it comes on the DVD with no customizations on an
ASUS X541S laptop.
Logiteck USB wireless mouse and I did swap them with another system that does
not have a problem.


Both screens display the data as wide screen but there are mouse dropping
everywhere and the cursor does not move smoothly and holding the button down to
drag something it appears as if you are not keeping the button down (bouncing).
Makes it hard to keep track of where the real cursor is located even harder to
drag an object to another location.  At first I thought my mouse was failing so
I tried a different mouse so it is not a mouse problem.  It seems that this
problem has been around for a long time.  My searching did not come up with a
fix.

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Liam Proven
On Mon, 8 Oct 2018 at 19:39, Bob <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Looking at the old messages I did not elaborate on the mouse problems but I did
> when I posted the original problem in a message with the subject "Problems with
> dual moniters" which got no responses.

I don't think it's really fair to ask us to recall every previous
message and info that was in it! :-(


> I am running Ubuntu 18.04.1 as it comes on the DVD with no customizations on an
> ASUS X541S laptop.
> Logiteck USB wireless mouse and I did swap them with another system that does
> not have a problem.
>
>
> Both screens display the data as wide screen but there are mouse dropping
> everywhere and the cursor does not move smoothly and holding the button down to
> drag something it appears as if you are not keeping the button down (bouncing).
> Makes it hard to keep track of where the real cursor is located even harder to
> drag an object to another location.  At first I thought my mouse was failing so
> I tried a different mouse so it is not a mouse problem.  It seems that this
> problem has been around for a long time.  My searching did not come up with a
> fix.

I've gone digging and found your previous message. It looks like you
have the low-end model in that series, with a Celeron chip and Intel
on-board graphics. Is that right?

Have you installed any optional drivers or microcode? If not, you
should do that.

Open "software & updates". Click the "additional drivers" tab. Enable
any additional options that you can. Reboot.

I also do not know if you are running GNOME on X.11 or on Wayland. It
is a choice on the login screen. I think X.11 is the default but I
don't run GNOME myself. Try Wayland instead of X.org.

And as I always say, ensure that you are on the latest system firmware
for your machine.

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Bob
** Reply to message from Liam Proven <[hidden email]> on Tue, 9 Oct 2018
12:15:40 +0200

> On Mon, 8 Oct 2018 at 19:39, Bob <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > Looking at the old messages I did not elaborate on the mouse problems but I did
> > when I posted the original problem in a message with the subject "Problems with
> > dual moniters" which got no responses.
>
> I don't think it's really fair to ask us to recall every previous
> message and info that was in it! :-(

That is why I did not ask for help using the display through an HDMI
connection, just stated I needed to wait for a fix.


> > I am running Ubuntu 18.04.1 as it comes on the DVD with no customizations on an
> > ASUS X541S laptop.
> > Logiteck USB wireless mouse and I did swap them with another system that does
> > not have a problem.
> >
> >
> > Both screens display the data as wide screen but there are mouse dropping
> > everywhere and the cursor does not move smoothly and holding the button down to
> > drag something it appears as if you are not keeping the button down (bouncing).
> > Makes it hard to keep track of where the real cursor is located even harder to
> > drag an object to another location.  At first I thought my mouse was failing so
> > I tried a different mouse so it is not a mouse problem.  It seems that this
> > problem has been around for a long time.  My searching did not come up with a
> > fix.
>
> I've gone digging and found your previous message. It looks like you
> have the low-end model in that series, with a Celeron chip and Intel
> on-board graphics. Is that right?

This has an Intel Pentium CPU N3710 quad core with Intel HD Graphics 405
(Braswell)


> Have you installed any optional drivers or microcode? If not, you
> should do that.

Not that I know of.


> Open "software & updates". Click the "additional drivers" tab. Enable
> any additional options that you can. Reboot.

 The additional drivers list is empty.  I did not see anything to enable.


> I also do not know if you are running GNOME on X.11 or on Wayland. It
> is a choice on the login screen. I think X.11 is the default but I
> don't run GNOME myself. Try Wayland instead of X.org.

I think it is running X.org.  I do not know where to check if it is running
X.11 or X.org.

OK I will try Wayland.


> And as I always say, ensure that you are on the latest system firmware
> for your machine.

As I understand it Ubuntu automatically updates the Intel firmware.  Correct me
if I am wrong.

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On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 13:46:00 -0700, Bob wrote:

>** Reply to message from Liam Proven <[hidden email]> on Tue, 9 Oct
>2018 12:15:40 +0200
>> Have you installed any optional drivers or microcode? If not, you
>> should do that.  
>
>Not that I know of.
>
>> And as I always say, ensure that you are on the latest system
>> firmware for your machine.  
>
>As I understand it Ubuntu automatically updates the Intel firmware.
>Correct me if I am wrong.

Regarding firmware packages run

  apt list -qqa *microcode* linux-firmware

  dmesg | grep micro

A BIOS update could help, too, but can't be done by installing a
package.

Btw. the microcode also affects meltdown and spectre mitigation, run

  cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/vulnerabilities/*


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On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 06:20:07 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>Regarding firmware packages run
>
>  apt list -qqa *microcode* linux-firmware

Better run it like this, to avoid a possible issue caused by an
installed file:

   apt list -qqa '*microcode*' linux-firmware


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** Reply to message from Ralf Mardorf via ubuntu-users
<[hidden email]> on Wed, 10 Oct 2018 06:20:07 +0200

> On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 13:46:00 -0700, Bob wrote:
> >** Reply to message from Liam Proven <[hidden email]> on Tue, 9 Oct
> >2018 12:15:40 +0200
> >> Have you installed any optional drivers or microcode? If not, you
> >> should do that.  
> >
> >Not that I know of.
> >
> >> And as I always say, ensure that you are on the latest system
> >> firmware for your machine.  
> >
> >As I understand it Ubuntu automatically updates the Intel firmware.
> >Correct me if I am wrong.
>
> Regarding firmware packages run
>
>   apt list -qqa *microcode* linux-firmware

robert@MARS:~$ apt list -qqa "microcode" linux-firmware
linux-firmware/bionic-updates,bionic-updates,now 1.173.1 all
[installed,automatic]
linux-firmware/bionic,bionic 1.173 all


>   dmesg | grep micro

robert@MARS:~$ dmesg | grep micro
[    3.256926] microcode: sig=0x406c4, pf=0x1, revision=0x408
[    3.257166] microcode: Microcode Update Driver: v2.2.


> A BIOS update could help, too, but can't be done by installing a
> package.
>
> Btw. the microcode also affects meltdown and spectre mitigation, run
>
>   cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/vulnerabilities/*

robert@MARS:~$ cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/vulnerabilities/*
Not affected
Mitigation: PTI
Not affected
Mitigation: __user pointer sanitization
Mitigation: Full generic retpoline

robert@MARS:~$ ls /sys/devices/system/cpu/vulnerabilities/
l1tf  meltdown  spec_store_bypass  spectre_v1  spectre_v2

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<[hidden email]> on Wed, 10 Oct 2018 06:30:32 +0200

> On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 06:20:07 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> >Regarding firmware packages run
> >
> >  apt list -qqa *microcode* linux-firmware
>
> Better run it like this, to avoid a possible issue caused by an
> installed file:
>
>    apt list -qqa '*microcode*' linux-firmware

I mis read your code the first time so here it is again.

robert@MARS:~$ apt list -qqa '*microcode*' linux-firmware
amd64-microcode/bionic-updates,now 3.20180524.1~ubuntu0.18.04.2 amd64
[installed,automatic]
amd64-microcode/bionic-security 3.20180524.1~ubuntu0.18.04.1 amd64
amd64-microcode/bionic 3.20171205.1 amd64

intel-microcode/bionic-updates,bionic-security,now 3.20180807a.0ubuntu0.18.04.1
amd64 [installed,automatic]
intel-microcode/bionic 3.20180312.0~ubuntu18.04.1 amd64

linux-firmware/bionic-updates,bionic-updates,now 1.173.1 all
[installed,automatic]
linux-firmware/bionic,bionic 1.173 all

microcode.ctl/bionic 1.18~0+nmu2 amd64

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