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Software Updater broken on 16.04.x

Bret Busby-2
Hello.

On one of my computers running UbuntuMATE 16.04.x, the Software
Updater shows "Updated software is available for this computer. ..."
and "323.1MB will be downloaded.".

But, it now does not display a (selectable/deselectable) list of what
packages are to be downloaded/updated/installed/removed/changed.

This also occurs after the computer is rebooted.

I am not aware of any setting to conceal what packages are to be changed.

What is happening?

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Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
..............

"So once you do know what the question actually is,
 you'll know what the answer means."
- Deep Thought,
 Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
 "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
 A Trilogy In Four Parts",
 written by Douglas Adams,
 published by Pan Books, 1992

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Re: Software Updater broken on 16.04.x

Bret Busby-2
On 05/10/2018, Bret Busby <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hello.
>
> On one of my computers running UbuntuMATE 16.04.x, the Software
> Updater shows "Updated software is available for this computer. ..."
> and "323.1MB will be downloaded.".
>
> But, it now does not display a (selectable/deselectable) list of what
> packages are to be downloaded/updated/installed/removed/changed.
>
> This also occurs after the computer is rebooted.
>
> I am not aware of any setting to conceal what packages are to be changed.
>
> What is happening?
>

I note that

1. I have had an off-list reply, indicating that someone else had the
same problem, and decided to implement the update anyway, resulting in
lots of breakages, and

2, MeTV now also no longer works.

So, with the last reboot having implemented all of a previous set of
updates, the previous set of updates has apparently caused harm.


--
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
..............

"So once you do know what the question actually is,
 you'll know what the answer means."
- Deep Thought,
 Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
 "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
 A Trilogy In Four Parts",
 written by Douglas Adams,
 published by Pan Books, 1992

....................................................

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Re: Software Updater broken on 16.04.x

Colin Law


On Sun, 7 Oct 2018 at 13:11, Bret Busby <[hidden email]> wrote:
On 05/10/2018, Bret Busby <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hello.
>
> On one of my computers running UbuntuMATE 16.04.x, the Software
> Updater shows "Updated software is available for this computer. ..."
> and "323.1MB will be downloaded.".
>
> But, it now does not display a (selectable/deselectable) list of what
> packages are to be downloaded/updated/installed/removed/changed.
>
> This also occurs after the computer is rebooted.
>
> I am not aware of any setting to conceal what packages are to be changed.
>
> What is happening?
>

I note that

1. I have had an off-list reply, indicating that someone else had the
same problem, and decided to implement the update anyway, resulting in
lots of breakages, and

2, MeTV now also no longer works.

So, with the last reboot having implemented all of a previous set of
updates, the previous set of updates has apparently caused harm.

What does
sudo apt update
show, and then
sudo apt list --upgradable

Colin


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Re: Software Updater broken on 16.04.x

Bret Busby
On Sun, 7 Oct 2018, Colin Law wrote:

> Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2018 20:29:42
> From: Colin Law <[hidden email]>
> Reply-To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"
>     <[hidden email]>
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"
>     <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: Software Updater broken on 16.04.x
>
> On Sun, 7 Oct 2018 at 13:11, Bret Busby <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> On 05/10/2018, Bret Busby <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> Hello.
>>>
>>> On one of my computers running UbuntuMATE 16.04.x, the Software
>>> Updater shows "Updated software is available for this computer. ..."
>>> and "323.1MB will be downloaded.".
>>>
>>> But, it now does not display a (selectable/deselectable) list of what
>>> packages are to be downloaded/updated/installed/removed/changed.
>>>
>>> This also occurs after the computer is rebooted.
>>>
>>> I am not aware of any setting to conceal what packages are to be changed.
>>>
>>> What is happening?
>>>
>>
>> I note that
>>
>> 1. I have had an off-list reply, indicating that someone else had the
>> same problem, and decided to implement the update anyway, resulting in
>> lots of breakages, and
>>
>> 2, MeTV now also no longer works.
>>
>> So, with the last reboot having implemented all of a previous set of
>> updates, the previous set of updates has apparently caused harm.
>>
>
> What does
> sudo apt update
> show, and then
> sudo apt list --upgradable
>
> Colin
>
"
bret@bret-Inspiron-580-UbuntuMATE:~$ sudo apt update
sudo: unable to resolve host bret-Inspiron-580-UbuntuMATE
[sudo] password for bret:
Get:1 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security InRelease [107
kB]
Hit:2 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial InRelease
Hit:3 http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu xenial InRelease
Get:4 http://ppa.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/0.29/ubuntu xenial InRelease
[17.5 kB]
Get:5 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates InRelease [109 kB]
Hit:6 http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu wily InRelease
Get:7 http://ppa.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/0.29/ubuntu xenial/main amd64
Packages [9,948 B]
Get:8 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security/universe amd64
Packages [387 kB]
Get:9 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates/universe amd64
Packages [690 kB]
Get:10 http://ppa.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/0.29/ubuntu xenial/main i386
Packages [9,960 B]
Get:11 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security/universe i386
Packages [335 kB]
Get:12 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security/main amd64
Packages [562 kB]
Get:13 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security/main i386
Packages [484 kB]
Get:14 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates/universe i386
Packages [632 kB]
Get:15 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates/universe
Translation-en [279 kB]
Get:16 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates/main amd64
Packages [856 kB]
Get:17 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates/main i386
Packages [767 kB]
Get:18 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates/main
Translation-en [349 kB]
Fetched 5,594 kB in 5s (1,050 kB/s)
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
88 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them.
bret@bret-Inspiron-580-UbuntuMATE:~$ sudo apt list--upgradable
sudo: unable to resolve host bret-Inspiron-580-UbuntuMATE
E: Invalid operation list--upgradable
bret@bret-Inspiron-580-UbuntuMATE:~$
"

Then, having later realised that the second command requires a space
immediately after the string "list";

"
bret@bret-Inspiron-580-UbuntuMATE:~$ sudo apt list --upgradable
sudo: unable to resolve host bret-Inspiron-580-UbuntuMATE
[sudo] password for bret:
Listing... Done
apparmor/xenial-security,xenial-updates 2.10.95-0ubuntu2.10 amd64
[upgradable from: 2.10.95-0ubuntu2.9]
bind9-host/xenial-security,xenial-updates 1:9.10.3.dfsg.P4-8ubuntu1.11
amd64 [upgradable from: 1:9.10.3.dfsg.P4-8ubuntu1.10]
binutils/xenial-updates 2.26.1-1ubuntu1~16.04.7 amd64 [upgradable from:
2.26.1-1ubuntu1~16.04.6]
clamav/xenial-security,xenial-updates 0.100.1+dfsg-1ubuntu0.16.04.3
amd64 [upgradable from: 0.100.1+dfsg-1ubuntu0.16.04.2]
clamav-base/xenial-security,xenial-security,xenial-updates,xenial-updates
0.100.1+dfsg-1ubuntu0.16.04.3 all [upgradable from:
0.100.1+dfsg-1ubuntu0.16.04.2]
clamav-freshclam/xenial-security,xenial-updates
0.100.1+dfsg-1ubuntu0.16.04.3 amd64 [upgradable from:
0.100.1+dfsg-1ubuntu0.16.04.2]
curl/xenial-security,xenial-updates 7.47.0-1ubuntu2.9 amd64 [upgradable
from: 7.47.0-1ubuntu2.8]
dnsutils/xenial-security,xenial-updates 1:9.10.3.dfsg.P4-8ubuntu1.11
amd64 [upgradable from: 1:9.10.3.dfsg.P4-8ubuntu1.10]
firefox/xenial-security,xenial-updates 62.0.3+build1-0ubuntu0.16.04.2
amd64 [upgradable from: 62.0+build2-0ubuntu0.16.04.4]
firefox-locale-en/xenial-security,xenial-updates
62.0.3+build1-0ubuntu0.16.04.2 amd64 [upgradable from:
62.0+build2-0ubuntu0.16.04.4]
ghostscript/xenial-security,xenial-updates 9.25~dfsg+1-0ubuntu0.16.04.1
amd64 [upgradable from: 9.18~dfsg~0-0ubuntu2.8]
ghostscript-x/xenial-security,xenial-updates
9.25~dfsg+1-0ubuntu0.16.04.1 amd64 [upgradable from:
9.18~dfsg~0-0ubuntu2.8]
imagemagick/xenial-security,xenial-updates 8:6.8.9.9-7ubuntu5.13 amd64
[upgradable from: 8:6.8.9.9-7ubuntu5.12]
imagemagick-6.q16/xenial-security,xenial-updates 8:6.8.9.9-7ubuntu5.13
amd64 [upgradable from: 8:6.8.9.9-7ubuntu5.12]
imagemagick-common/xenial-security,xenial-security,xenial-updates,xenial-updates
8:6.8.9.9-7ubuntu5.13 all [upgradable from: 8:6.8.9.9-7ubuntu5.12]
initramfs-tools/xenial-updates,xenial-updates 0.122ubuntu8.13 all
[upgradable from: 0.122ubuntu8.12]
initramfs-tools-bin/xenial-updates 0.122ubuntu8.13 amd64 [upgradable
from: 0.122ubuntu8.12]
initramfs-tools-core/xenial-updates,xenial-updates 0.122ubuntu8.13 all
[upgradable from: 0.122ubuntu8.12]
libapparmor-perl/xenial-security,xenial-updates 2.10.95-0ubuntu2.10
amd64 [upgradable from: 2.10.95-0ubuntu2.9]
libapparmor1/xenial-security,xenial-updates 2.10.95-0ubuntu2.10 amd64
[upgradable from: 2.10.95-0ubuntu2.9]
libbind9-140/xenial-security,xenial-updates 1:9.10.3.dfsg.P4-8ubuntu1.11
amd64 [upgradable from: 1:9.10.3.dfsg.P4-8ubuntu1.10]
libclamav7/xenial-security,xenial-updates 0.100.1+dfsg-1ubuntu0.16.04.3
amd64 [upgradable from: 0.100.1+dfsg-1ubuntu0.16.04.2]
libcurl3/xenial-security,xenial-updates 7.47.0-1ubuntu2.9 amd64
[upgradable from: 7.47.0-1ubuntu2.8]
libcurl3-gnutls/xenial-security,xenial-updates 7.47.0-1ubuntu2.9 amd64
[upgradable from: 7.47.0-1ubuntu2.8]
libdns-export162/xenial-security,xenial-updates
1:9.10.3.dfsg.P4-8ubuntu1.11 amd64 [upgradable from:
1:9.10.3.dfsg.P4-8ubuntu1.10]
libdns162/xenial-security,xenial-updates 1:9.10.3.dfsg.P4-8ubuntu1.11
amd64 [upgradable from: 1:9.10.3.dfsg.P4-8ubuntu1.10]
libglib2.0-0/xenial-security,xenial-updates 2.48.2-0ubuntu4.1 amd64
[upgradable from: 2.48.2-0ubuntu4]
libglib2.0-bin/xenial-security,xenial-updates 2.48.2-0ubuntu4.1 amd64
[upgradable from: 2.48.2-0ubuntu4]
libglib2.0-data/xenial-security,xenial-security,xenial-updates,xenial-updates
2.48.2-0ubuntu4.1 all [upgradable from: 2.48.2-0ubuntu4]
libgs9/xenial-security,xenial-updates 9.25~dfsg+1-0ubuntu0.16.04.1 amd64
[upgradable from: 9.18~dfsg~0-0ubuntu2.8]
libgs9-common/xenial-security,xenial-security,xenial-updates,xenial-updates
9.25~dfsg+1-0ubuntu0.16.04.1 all [upgradable from:
9.18~dfsg~0-0ubuntu2.8]
libimage-magick-perl/xenial-security,xenial-security,xenial-updates,xenial-updates
8:6.8.9.9-7ubuntu5.13 all [upgradable from: 8:6.8.9.9-7ubuntu5.12]
libimage-magick-q16-perl/xenial-security,xenial-updates
8:6.8.9.9-7ubuntu5.13 amd64 [upgradable from: 8:6.8.9.9-7ubuntu5.12]
libisc-export160/xenial-security,xenial-updates
1:9.10.3.dfsg.P4-8ubuntu1.11 amd64 [upgradable from:
1:9.10.3.dfsg.P4-8ubuntu1.10]
libisc160/xenial-security,xenial-updates 1:9.10.3.dfsg.P4-8ubuntu1.11
amd64 [upgradable from: 1:9.10.3.dfsg.P4-8ubuntu1.10]
libisccc140/xenial-security,xenial-updates 1:9.10.3.dfsg.P4-8ubuntu1.11
amd64 [upgradable from: 1:9.10.3.dfsg.P4-8ubuntu1.10]
libisccfg140/xenial-security,xenial-updates 1:9.10.3.dfsg.P4-8ubuntu1.11
amd64 [upgradable from: 1:9.10.3.dfsg.P4-8ubuntu1.10]
liblcms2-2/xenial-security,xenial-updates 2.6-3ubuntu2.1 amd64
[upgradable from: 2.6-3ubuntu2]
liblcms2-utils/xenial-security,xenial-updates 2.6-3ubuntu2.1 amd64
[upgradable from: 2.6-3ubuntu2]
liblouis-data/xenial-security,xenial-security,xenial-updates,xenial-updates
2.6.4-2ubuntu0.4 all [upgradable from: 2.6.4-2ubuntu0.3]
liblouis9/xenial-security,xenial-updates 2.6.4-2ubuntu0.4 amd64
[upgradable from: 2.6.4-2ubuntu0.3]
liblwres141/xenial-security,xenial-updates 1:9.10.3.dfsg.P4-8ubuntu1.11
amd64 [upgradable from: 1:9.10.3.dfsg.P4-8ubuntu1.10]
libmagickcore-6.q16-2/xenial-security,xenial-updates
8:6.8.9.9-7ubuntu5.13 amd64 [upgradable from: 8:6.8.9.9-7ubuntu5.12]
libmagickcore-6.q16-2-extra/xenial-security,xenial-updates
8:6.8.9.9-7ubuntu5.13 amd64 [upgradable from: 8:6.8.9.9-7ubuntu5.12]
libmagickwand-6.q16-2/xenial-security,xenial-updates
8:6.8.9.9-7ubuntu5.13 amd64 [upgradable from: 8:6.8.9.9-7ubuntu5.12]
libmyth/xenial 2:29.1+fixes.20181005.74fff5c-0ubuntu0mythbuntu3 amd64
[upgradable from: 2:29.1+fixes.20180908.dde16d4-0ubuntu0mythbuntu3]
libmyth-python/xenial,xenial
2:29.1+fixes.20181005.74fff5c-0ubuntu0mythbuntu3 all [upgradable from:
2:29.1+fixes.20180908.dde16d4-0ubuntu0mythbuntu3]
libmythtv-perl/xenial,xenial
2:29.1+fixes.20181005.74fff5c-0ubuntu0mythbuntu3 all [upgradable from:
2:29.1+fixes.20180908.dde16d4-0ubuntu0mythbuntu3]
libopencv-calib3d2.4v5/xenial-security,xenial-updates
2.4.9.1+dfsg-1.5ubuntu1.1 amd64 [upgradable from:
2.4.9.1+dfsg-1.5ubuntu1]
libopencv-contrib2.4v5/xenial-security,xenial-updates
2.4.9.1+dfsg-1.5ubuntu1.1 amd64 [upgradable from:
2.4.9.1+dfsg-1.5ubuntu1]
libopencv-core2.4v5/xenial-security,xenial-updates
2.4.9.1+dfsg-1.5ubuntu1.1 amd64 [upgradable from:
2.4.9.1+dfsg-1.5ubuntu1]
libopencv-features2d2.4v5/xenial-security,xenial-updates
2.4.9.1+dfsg-1.5ubuntu1.1 amd64 [upgradable from:
2.4.9.1+dfsg-1.5ubuntu1]
libopencv-flann2.4v5/xenial-security,xenial-updates
2.4.9.1+dfsg-1.5ubuntu1.1 amd64 [upgradable from:
2.4.9.1+dfsg-1.5ubuntu1]
libopencv-highgui2.4v5/xenial-security,xenial-updates
2.4.9.1+dfsg-1.5ubuntu1.1 amd64 [upgradable from:
2.4.9.1+dfsg-1.5ubuntu1]
libopencv-imgproc2.4v5/xenial-security,xenial-updates
2.4.9.1+dfsg-1.5ubuntu1.1 amd64 [upgradable from:
2.4.9.1+dfsg-1.5ubuntu1]
libopencv-legacy2.4v5/xenial-security,xenial-updates
2.4.9.1+dfsg-1.5ubuntu1.1 amd64 [upgradable from:
2.4.9.1+dfsg-1.5ubuntu1]
libopencv-ml2.4v5/xenial-security,xenial-updates
2.4.9.1+dfsg-1.5ubuntu1.1 amd64 [upgradable from:
2.4.9.1+dfsg-1.5ubuntu1]
libopencv-objdetect2.4v5/xenial-security,xenial-updates
2.4.9.1+dfsg-1.5ubuntu1.1 amd64 [upgradable from:
2.4.9.1+dfsg-1.5ubuntu1]
libopencv-video2.4v5/xenial-security,xenial-updates
2.4.9.1+dfsg-1.5ubuntu1.1 amd64 [upgradable from:
2.4.9.1+dfsg-1.5ubuntu1]
libpam-systemd/xenial-updates 229-4ubuntu21.4 amd64 [upgradable from:
229-4ubuntu21.2]
libsystemd0/xenial-updates 229-4ubuntu21.4 amd64 [upgradable from:
229-4ubuntu21.2]
libudev1/xenial-updates 229-4ubuntu21.4 amd64 [upgradable from:
229-4ubuntu21.2]
linux-generic/xenial-security,xenial-updates 4.4.0.137.143 amd64
[upgradable from: 4.4.0.135.141]
linux-headers-generic/xenial-security,xenial-updates 4.4.0.137.143 amd64
[upgradable from: 4.4.0.135.141]
linux-image-generic/xenial-security,xenial-updates 4.4.0.137.143 amd64
[upgradable from: 4.4.0.135.141]
linux-libc-dev/xenial-security,xenial-updates 4.4.0-137.163 amd64
[upgradable from: 4.4.0-135.161]
mplayer/xenial-security,xenial-updates 2:1.2.1-1ubuntu1.1 amd64
[upgradable from: 2:1.2.1-1ubuntu1]
mplayer2/xenial-security,xenial-security,xenial-updates,xenial-updates
2:1.2.1-1ubuntu1.1 all [upgradable from: 2:1.2.1-1ubuntu1]
mutt/xenial-security,xenial-updates 1.5.24-1ubuntu0.2 amd64 [upgradable
from: 1.5.24-1ubuntu0.1]
mythtv/xenial,xenial 2:29.1+fixes.20181005.74fff5c-0ubuntu0mythbuntu3
all [upgradable from: 2:29.1+fixes.20180908.dde16d4-0ubuntu0mythbuntu3]
mythtv-backend/xenial 2:29.1+fixes.20181005.74fff5c-0ubuntu0mythbuntu3
amd64 [upgradable from:
2:29.1+fixes.20180908.dde16d4-0ubuntu0mythbuntu3]
mythtv-common/xenial 2:29.1+fixes.20181005.74fff5c-0ubuntu0mythbuntu3
amd64 [upgradable from:
2:29.1+fixes.20180908.dde16d4-0ubuntu0mythbuntu3]
mythtv-database/xenial,xenial
2:29.1+fixes.20181005.74fff5c-0ubuntu0mythbuntu3 all [upgradable from:
2:29.1+fixes.20180908.dde16d4-0ubuntu0mythbuntu3]
mythtv-dbg/xenial 2:29.1+fixes.20181005.74fff5c-0ubuntu0mythbuntu3 amd64
[upgradable from: 2:29.1+fixes.20180908.dde16d4-0ubuntu0mythbuntu3]
mythtv-doc/xenial,xenial
2:29.1+fixes.20181005.74fff5c-0ubuntu0mythbuntu3 all [upgradable from:
2:29.1+fixes.20180908.dde16d4-0ubuntu0mythbuntu3]
mythtv-frontend/xenial 2:29.1+fixes.20181005.74fff5c-0ubuntu0mythbuntu3
amd64 [upgradable from:
2:29.1+fixes.20180908.dde16d4-0ubuntu0mythbuntu3]
mythtv-transcode-utils/xenial
2:29.1+fixes.20181005.74fff5c-0ubuntu0mythbuntu3 amd64 [upgradable from:
2:29.1+fixes.20180908.dde16d4-0ubuntu0mythbuntu3]
python3-louis/xenial-security,xenial-security,xenial-updates,xenial-updates
2.6.4-2ubuntu0.4 all [upgradable from: 2.6.4-2ubuntu0.3]
python3-update-manager/xenial-updates,xenial-updates 1:16.04.14 all
[upgradable from: 1:16.04.13]
systemd/xenial-updates 229-4ubuntu21.4 amd64 [upgradable from:
229-4ubuntu21.2]
systemd-sysv/xenial-updates 229-4ubuntu21.4 amd64 [upgradable from:
229-4ubuntu21.2]
tzdata/xenial-security,xenial-security,xenial-updates,xenial-updates
2018e-0ubuntu0.16.04 all [upgradable from: 2017c-0ubuntu0.16.04]
udev/xenial-updates 229-4ubuntu21.4 amd64 [upgradable from:
229-4ubuntu21.2]
update-manager/xenial-updates,xenial-updates 1:16.04.14 all [upgradable
from: 1:16.04.13]
update-manager-core/xenial-updates,xenial-updates 1:16.04.14 all
[upgradable from: 1:16.04.13]
bret@bret-Inspiron-580-UbuntuMATE:~$
"

Why I did not get a list of the changes to be made, in the Software
Updater window, I do not know.

I am also concerned that the other person who advised me off-list, that
that peerson had suffered the same problem, and updated anyway, suffered
apparent breakages, in the process.

--
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
..............

"So once you do know what the question actually is,
  you'll know what the answer means."
- Deep Thought,
   Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
   "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
   A Trilogy In Four Parts",
   written by Douglas Adams,
   published by Pan Books, 1992
....................................................
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Re: Software Updater broken on 16.04.x

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It's overkill, but consider to do it anyway:

1. Reboot

2. Open a terminal and run
   
   sudo apt autoremove

   sudo apt update
   sudo apt full-upgrade

   sudo dpkg --configure -a
   sudo apt --fix-broken install

   sudo apt autoremove

   sudo apt update
   sudo apt full-upgrade

   sudo apt autoremove

   sudo dpkg --configure -a
   sudo apt --fix-broken install

   sudo apt update
   sudo apt full-upgrade

   sudo apt autoremove

3. Reboot

4. Open a terminal and run

   sudo apt update
   sudo apt full-upgrade

   sudo apt autoremove

Is still anything fishy?



   


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Re: Software Updater broken on 16.04.x

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On Sun, 7 Oct 2018 19:40:41 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>It's overkill, but consider to do it anyway:
>
>1. Reboot
>
>2. Open a terminal and run

I've forgotten to make the overkill complete, first run

    sudo apt clean

or

    sudo sh -c "rm -Ir /var/cache/apt/archives/*
 
>   sudo apt autoremove
>   [snip]


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Re: Software Updater broken on 16.04.x

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On Sun, 7 Oct 2018 19:48:48 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

>On Sun, 7 Oct 2018 19:40:41 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>>It's overkill, but consider to do it anyway:
>>
>>1. Reboot
>>
>>2. Open a terminal and run  
>
>I've forgotten to make the overkill complete, first run
>
>    sudo apt clean
>
>or
>
>    sudo sh -c "rm -Ir /var/cache/apt/archives/*
                                                 ^
This should read                                

     sudo sh -c "rm -Ir /var/cache/apt/archives/*"
                                                 ^
>>   sudo apt autoremove
>>   [snip]


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Re: Software Updater broken on 16.04.x

Colin Law
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On Sun, 7 Oct 2018 at 17:50, Bret Busby <[hidden email]> wrote:
...
bret@bret-Inspiron-580-UbuntuMATE:~$ sudo apt update
sudo: unable to resolve host bret-Inspiron-580-UbuntuMATE

Before doing anything else I would fix that issue, have you attempted to change the computers name?  If so then I think you may only have done half of it.  Have a look at /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname.  They should both have an entry for bret-Inspiron-580-UbuntuMATE.

/etc/hosts should include
127.0.0.1    localhost
127.0.1.1    bret-Inspiron-580-UbuntuMATE

and /etc/hostname should just contain bret-Inspiron-580-UbuntuMATE

After fixing those then reboot and the gui app may well work.

If you want to update using the  command line it should not be necessary to do all the stuff Ralf suggests, just
sudo apt full-upgrade
should be enough, possibly followed by
sudo apt autoremove

Colin


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Re: Software Updater broken on 16.04.x

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On Sun, 7 Oct 2018 20:09:51 +0100, Colin Law wrote:
>If you want to update using the  command line it should not be
>necessary to do all the stuff Ralf suggests, just sudo apt full-upgrade
>should be enough, possibly followed by
>sudo apt autoremove

FACK :), with the exception of doing an "apt update first" ;).

An "overkill" is never needed, (in this case) it just doesn't harm.
Since I was born in 1966, IOW I'm a child of the 80's, the so called
generation X, I'm aware of at least one kind of overkill, that is
seriously dangerous, but it's not related to this topic.


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Re: Software Updater broken on 16.04.x

Tommy Trussell
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On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 2:59 AM Bret Busby <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hello.

On one of my computers running UbuntuMATE 16.04.x, the Software
Updater shows "Updated software is available for this computer. ..."
and "323.1MB will be downloaded.".

But, it now does not display a (selectable/deselectable) list of what
packages are to be downloaded/updated/installed/removed/changed.

This also occurs after the computer is rebooted.

I am not aware of any setting to conceal what packages are to be changed.

What is happening?

This sounds like Ubuntu bug 1766217


I don't think it's been fixed yet, but if you read through you'll see a pretty straightforward workaround -- deleting one file seems to restore the list of updates.

Technically since you're using a different "downstream" distro so you may want to file a bug wherever the MATE people keep track of bugs, and maybe reference Ubuntu bug 1766217.


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