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Nigel Verity
Hi

I have an Acer laptop on which I run Xubuntu 18.04. Recently I've been having increasing problems with the wi-fi. At first it kept randomly dropping the connection, but allowed me to reconnect. The frequency of these dropouts increased and a few days ago it got to the point where not only could I not reconnect at all, the available wi-fi networks were not even being detected.

My assumption was a failing wi-fi adaptor. Having identified the type I went on to the Intel website only to find that support for it has been dropped (the laptop is a few years old). It did suggest, however, that combinations of the Fn and function keys might provide a hardware switch for the wi-fi, as might Ctrl + Alt plus a function key. Really it was clutching at straws but I tried it anyway, with little hope given that the instructions were aimed at Windows users.

To cut a long story short Ctrl + Alt + F1 took me instantly out of the GUI to a command line login prompt. After logging in I ran "startx" to fire up the GUI and that took me to the "first use" screen you get when installing Xfce - no task bar, menu or anything else pre-defined. Fearing I may have royally screwed up my user interface I did a hard shutdown with the power button and then rebooted. Up came the GUI exactly as I am used to seeing it, with wi-fi working fine and no dropouts since.

I've found nothing in either the Xubuntu or Acer documentation about this particular key combination but it's worked wonders. May just be worth others bearing in mind in case of wi-fi or, possibly, other driver issues.

Nige

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Re: Surprising Wi-Fi Problem Cure

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On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 at 13:16, Nigel Verity <[hidden email]> wrote:

> To cut a long story short Ctrl + Alt + F1 took me instantly out of the GUI to a command line login prompt. After logging in I ran "startx" to fire up the GUI and that took me to the "first use" screen you get when installing Xfce - no task bar, menu or anything else pre-defined. Fearing I may have royally screwed up my user interface I did a hard shutdown with the power button and then rebooted. Up came the GUI exactly as I am used to seeing it, with wi-fi working fine and no dropouts since.
>
> I've found nothing in either the Xubuntu or Acer documentation about this particular key combination but it's worked wonders. May just be worth others bearing in mind in case of wi-fi or, possibly, other driver issues.

Are you a novice to Linux?

I can only say you did not Google hard enough.

E.g.
https://askubuntu.com/questions/157617/reverting-from-ctrl-alt-f1

Which I got from "Linux ctr alt f1"

This is a standard feature of all Linux distros with GUIs and has been
for 25 years.

Ctrl-Alt-F1 to F6 takes you to virtual consoles -- the text login
screen you see before the graphical desktop loads.

No you can't load the desktop, because it is already loaded and still running.

To get back to the desktop, press Ctrl-Alt-F7.


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Nigel Verity
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I thought the idea of mailing lists such as this was to share knowledge rather than belittle others for having gaps in theirs. I was not actually asking a question but you have clearly taken it as an opportunity to show all the readers of this forum how clever and experienced you are. I bow to your obvious superiority.

That aside I am genuinely grateful for the pointers to the use of these key combinations which I am sure will come in handy in the future.

Nige 

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Hi

I have an Acer laptop on which I run Xubuntu 18.04. Recently I've been having increasing problems with the wi-fi. At first it kept randomly dropping the connection, but allowed me to reconnect. The frequency of these dropouts increased and a few days ago it got to the point where not only could I not reconnect at all, the available wi-fi networks were not even being detected.

My assumption was a failing wi-fi adaptor. Having identified the type I went on to the Intel website only to find that support for it has been dropped (the laptop is a few years old). It did suggest, however, that combinations of the Fn and function keys might provide a hardware switch for the wi-fi, as might Ctrl + Alt plus a function key. Really it was clutching at straws but I tried it anyway, with little hope given that the instructions were aimed at Windows users.

To cut a long story short Ctrl + Alt + F1 took me instantly out of the GUI to a command line login prompt. After logging in I ran "startx" to fire up the GUI and that took me to the "first use" screen you get when installing Xfce - no task bar, menu or anything else pre-defined. Fearing I may have royally screwed up my user interface I did a hard shutdown with the power button and then rebooted. Up came the GUI exactly as I am used to seeing it, with wi-fi working fine and no dropouts since.

I've found nothing in either the Xubuntu or Acer documentation about this particular key combination but it's worked wonders. May just be worth others bearing in mind in case of wi-fi or, possibly, other driver issues.

Nige
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On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 at 13:16, Nigel Verity <[hidden email]> wrote:

> To cut a long story short Ctrl + Alt + F1 took me instantly out of the GUI to a command line login prompt. After logging in I ran "startx" to fire up the GUI and that took me to the "first use" screen you get when installing Xfce - no task bar, menu or anything else pre-defined. Fearing I may have royally screwed up my user interface I did a hard shutdown with the power button and then rebooted. Up came the GUI exactly as I am used to seeing it, with wi-fi working fine and no dropouts since.
>
> I've found nothing in either the Xubuntu or Acer documentation about this particular key combination but it's worked wonders. May just be worth others bearing in mind in case of wi-fi or, possibly, other driver issues.

Are you a novice to Linux?

I can only say you did not Google hard enough.

E.g.
https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Faskubuntu.com%2Fquestions%2F157617%2Freverting-from-ctrl-alt-f1&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cd673a22d3a644ba9c52308d63b3aa89a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636761520449720593&amp;sdata=hY7KuLi1snabeaOpvXnOtMSC8ak6NvMI7KrqCZC3kpk%3D&amp;reserved=0

Which I got from "Linux ctr alt f1"

This is a standard feature of all Linux distros with GUIs and has been
for 25 years.

Ctrl-Alt-F1 to F6 takes you to virtual consoles -- the text login
screen you see before the graphical desktop loads.

No you can't load the desktop, because it is already loaded and still running.

To get back to the desktop, press Ctrl-Alt-F7.


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Re: Surprising Wi-Fi Problem Cure

Anthony Harrington

Thank you for your insights, Nige,

I'm sorry that manners were lacking in the reply you received and hope you would share anything else in the future. Not everyone has been a linux user since time immemorial and there are bound to be stumbles and moments of gaining experience that the veterans know of only too well.


Keep at it,

Anthony



On 26/10/2018 3:20 pm, Nigel Verity wrote:
I thought the idea of mailing lists such as this was to share knowledge rather than belittle others for having gaps in theirs. I was not actually asking a question but you have clearly taken it as an opportunity to show all the readers of this forum how clever and experienced you are. I bow to your obvious superiority.

That aside I am genuinely grateful for the pointers to the use of these key combinations which I am sure will come in handy in the future.

Nige 

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Hi

I have an Acer laptop on which I run Xubuntu 18.04. Recently I've been having increasing problems with the wi-fi. At first it kept randomly dropping the connection, but allowed me to reconnect. The frequency of these dropouts increased and a few days ago it got to the point where not only could I not reconnect at all, the available wi-fi networks were not even being detected.

My assumption was a failing wi-fi adaptor. Having identified the type I went on to the Intel website only to find that support for it has been dropped (the laptop is a few years old). It did suggest, however, that combinations of the Fn and function keys might provide a hardware switch for the wi-fi, as might Ctrl + Alt plus a function key. Really it was clutching at straws but I tried it anyway, with little hope given that the instructions were aimed at Windows users.

To cut a long story short Ctrl + Alt + F1 took me instantly out of the GUI to a command line login prompt. After logging in I ran "startx" to fire up the GUI and that took me to the "first use" screen you get when installing Xfce - no task bar, menu or anything else pre-defined. Fearing I may have royally screwed up my user interface I did a hard shutdown with the power button and then rebooted. Up came the GUI exactly as I am used to seeing it, with wi-fi working fine and no dropouts since.

I've found nothing in either the Xubuntu or Acer documentation about this particular key combination but it's worked wonders. May just be worth others bearing in mind in case of wi-fi or, possibly, other driver issues.

Nige
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On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 at 13:16, Nigel Verity [hidden email] wrote:

> To cut a long story short Ctrl + Alt + F1 took me instantly out of the GUI to a command line login prompt. After logging in I ran "startx" to fire up the GUI and that took me to the "first use" screen you get when installing Xfce - no task bar, menu or anything else pre-defined. Fearing I may have royally screwed up my user interface I did a hard shutdown with the power button and then rebooted. Up came the GUI exactly as I am used to seeing it, with wi-fi working fine and no dropouts since.
>
> I've found nothing in either the Xubuntu or Acer documentation about this particular key combination but it's worked wonders. May just be worth others bearing in mind in case of wi-fi or, possibly, other driver issues.

Are you a novice to Linux?

I can only say you did not Google hard enough.

E.g.
https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Faskubuntu.com%2Fquestions%2F157617%2Freverting-from-ctrl-alt-f1&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cd673a22d3a644ba9c52308d63b3aa89a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636761520449720593&amp;sdata=hY7KuLi1snabeaOpvXnOtMSC8ak6NvMI7KrqCZC3kpk%3D&amp;reserved=0

Which I got from "Linux ctr alt f1"

This is a standard feature of all Linux distros with GUIs and has been
for 25 years.

Ctrl-Alt-F1 to F6 takes you to virtual consoles -- the text login
screen you see before the graphical desktop loads.

No you can't load the desktop, because it is already loaded and still running.

To get back to the desktop, press Ctrl-Alt-F7.


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Liam Proven
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On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 at 16:20, Nigel Verity <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I thought the idea of mailing lists such as this was to share knowledge rather than belittle others for having gaps in theirs. I was not actually asking a question but you have clearly taken it as an opportunity to show all the readers of this forum how clever and experienced you are. I bow to your obvious superiority.
>
> That aside I am genuinely grateful for the pointers to the use of these key combinations which I am sure will come in handy in the future.

I am sorry that I caused offence. That was not my intent. I apologise.

My questions *were* genuine.

Ctrl-Alt-F[1-7] are standard Linux keystrokes across all distros, even
if they do not have a GUI. I was thus surprised when you said that you
had tried to Google for more info and not found anything, because this
is a universal feature.

I don't know what you Googled for. If you can remember, it would be
informative, because this information _should_ have shown up, very
high on the list.

I really do not wish to add any additional hard feelings, but if I
might be forgiven, I wish to point out that standard mailing-list
style is that replies should go _below_ the text one is responding to,
and that one should trim the quoted text to the part that one is
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