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Thunderbird and security

Phil
Thank you for reading this.

I have a need for a Gmail account but I'm blocked from accessing it from
Thunderbird. Google considers Thunderbird to be less secure that their
own mail client but there is an option to allow for less secure mail
clients. Of course Google dose not recommend this option.

Is accessing Gmail from Thunderbird really a security? I suspect that
it's not.

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Re: Thunderbird and security

Pete Smout-2
On 01/10/14 00:29, Phil wrote:

> Thank you for reading this.
>
> I have a need for a Gmail account but I'm blocked from accessing it from
> Thunderbird. Google considers Thunderbird to be less secure that their
> own mail client but there is an option to allow for less secure mail
> clients. Of course Google dose not recommend this option.
>
> Is accessing Gmail from Thunderbird really a security? I suspect that
> it's not.
>
FTIW I have a Gmail account and I'm sending this using t-bird and
they've never told me anything of the kind!! From day 1 I put the
settings into t-bird and it just worked (tm)!

Not a security guru just my 0.02p

Pete S

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Re: Thunderbird and security

NoOp-4
In reply to this post by Phil
On 09/30/2014 04:29 PM, Phil wrote:
> Thank you for reading this.
>
> I have a need for a Gmail account but I'm blocked from accessing it from
> Thunderbird. Google considers Thunderbird to be less secure that their
> own mail client but there is an option to allow for less secure mail
> clients. Of course Google dose not recommend this option.

Say what? Cite please.

pop.gmail.com
port 995
SSL/TLS
smtp.gmail.com
port 587 (msa)
starttls
(port 465 with SSL/TLS also works)
works just fine.

Or if you prefer imap:
<https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/thunderbird-and-gmail>
<http://kb.mozillazine.org/Using_Gmail_with_Thunderbird_and_Mozilla_Suite>

>
> Is accessing Gmail from Thunderbird really a security? I suspect that
> it's not.
>

Again- cite please.



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Re: Thunderbird and security

Phil
In reply to this post by Pete Smout-2
On 10/01/2014 09:57 AM, Peter Smout wrote:

> On 01/10/14 00:29, Phil wrote:
>> Thank you for reading this.
>>
>> I have a need for a Gmail account but I'm blocked from accessing it from
>> Thunderbird. Google considers Thunderbird to be less secure that their
>> own mail client but there is an option to allow for less secure mail
>> clients. Of course Google dose not recommend this option.
>>
>> Is accessing Gmail from Thunderbird really a security? I suspect that
>> it's not.
>>
> FTIW I have a Gmail account and I'm sending this using t-bird and
> they've never told me anything of the kind!! From day 1 I put the
> settings into t-bird and it just worked (tm)!
>

Thanks Pete,

Just for interests sake here is the page that I was referring to:

https://www.google.com/settings/security/lesssecureapps

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Re: Thunderbird and security

NoOp-4
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On 09/30/2014 05:07 PM, NoOp wrote:
> On 09/30/2014 04:29 PM, Phil wrote:
...
>>
>> Is accessing Gmail from Thunderbird really a security? I suspect that
>> it's not.
>>
>
> Again- cite please.

My apologies - I should have notice the "Less Secure Apps" in the link
that I gave you
(http://kb.mozillazine.org/Using_Gmail_with_Thunderbird_and_Mozilla_Suite).
I've just never experienced what they/you are talking about. Other refs
as an fyi:

<http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=2852231>
(gmail says Thunderbird not safe)
<https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=849540>
(Log in to Google Talk (XMPP) and Gmail (IMAP/SMTP) using OAuth)
<http://googleonlinesecurity.blogspot.co.uk/2014/04/new-security-measures-will-affect-older.html>
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OAuth>
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OAuth#Controversy>

Appears that Google is trying to force their users to use only their web
based logins instead of using an email client.

But I reckon that this is now off topic for this list, so you probably
should inquire over on the thunderbird support list:
<https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/forums/#end-user-support>


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