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Jayasimha Yerramilli

Hello everyone i am a newbie to Linux and i am using the live cd to
enhance my knowledge in Linux. Can somebody provide me with a link to
download Ubuntu guide for the Live CD in PDF format.



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  1. Re: Sound in Breezy (Mailing Lists - SBC)
  2. Re: Xorg Mem issues.... (Ryan Escarez)
  3. Packages (VIGNESH)
  4. backports example (Marek Pawinski)
  5. Re: backports example (Dennis Kaarsemaker)
  6. Re: Packages (Dennis Kaarsemaker)
  7. Re: backports example (Chris Peterman)
  8. Re: Sound in Breezy ([hidden email])
  9. Beautifull (Ashwani Jain)
10. new Powerbook install problem 5.10 (Steve Calvin)
11. Re: Packages (VIGNESH)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 23:00:47 -0500
From: Mailing Lists - SBC <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: Sound in Breezy
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On Nov 4, 2005, at 12:03, Chris Peterman wrote:

> Sound problems still exist somewhat in Breezy, and that guide still
> applies :D
>
> But see if going to "Multimedia Settings" and changing the output
> sound
> daemon to ALSA works first
>


I am having a bit of a sound problem...I don't have any. Nothing at
all coming through speakers, and I have built in sound on mother
board. I have not been able to figure this one out....

help...someone...please...

Thanks



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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 12:54:11 +0800
From: Ryan Escarez <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: Xorg Mem issues....
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On 11/5/05, Charles Malespin <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I had used fluxbox on the previous set up and didnt really like it too
> much.

have you notice different performance when you use fluxbox as wm?


> Is there something that is more similar to gnome that I could try
> easily to see if I like it?  I am still a noob in most things so any
> documentation and/or steps to install would help.

probably Xfce4, as xubuntu project aim to provide a nice Ubuntu
desktop experience (even on older hardware)


>  I would like to add that this isnt killing my machine, its just
> noticibly slower than with hoary and I would like to find out why.

there's many workaround that can probably fix that, lets see if others
on this list might add help on your problem.


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Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 10:55:19 +0530
From: VIGNESH <[hidden email]>
Subject: Packages
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I use dpkg to install packages in Ubuntu.I don`t have an interner
connection.So I install packages like amarok,K3b etc using dpkg.When I open
Synaptic package manager it says there are 13 broken packages.Is this
something that has to be avoided.Since I never use synaptic as I don`t have
a internet connection in Ubuntu and plus I only use dpkg to add packages.

How do I remove packages with dpkg ?

How do I see the list of packages ?
It is something like dpkg -query -1 or something ? Whats the full form for
dpkg ?

Cheers
Vignesh
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Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 07:45:51 +0200
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Subject: backports example
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Hi

Could someone give me an example line of the backports repo for
breezy ,mine in /etc/apt/sources.list comes with errors. If there is one
for amd64 that would be great.

Marek




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Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 07:05:50 +0100
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On za, 2005-11-05 at 07:45 +0200, Marek Pawinski wrote:
> Hi
>
> Could someone give me an example line of the backports repo for
> breezy

No. There isn't any.
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On za, 2005-11-05 at 10:55 +0530, VIGNESH wrote:
> How do I remove packages with dpkg ?

dpkg -P $package

> How do I see the list of packages ?

dpkg -l

See the manpage of dpkg for all details and options.
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Breezy Backports are not open yet, just comment it out

~Chris

On Sat, 2005-11-05 at 07:45 +0200, Marek Pawinski wrote:
> Hi
>
> Could someone give me an example line of the backports repo for
> breezy ,mine in /etc/apt/sources.list comes with errors. If there is one
> for amd64 that would be great.
>
> Marek
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Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 22:30:28 -0800
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On Fri, Nov 04, 2005 at 11:00:47PM -0500, Mailing Lists - SBC wrote:
> I am having a bit of a sound problem...I don't have any. Nothing at
> all coming through speakers, and I have built in sound on mother
> board. I have not been able to figure this one out....
>
> help...someone...please...

You should provide more information. What is the output from:

lspci -v|grep -i audio
cat /proc/asound/cards
amixer
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Subject: Beautifull
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Hi ALL:

This is to say thanks to all the members of this list.  In last few days
I posted lots of problem and found solution for most of them with in the
same day.  Members are very helpfull and has good knowledge.  This kind
of list is going to make Ubuntu the most successfull disto of Linux.

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Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 22:39:16 -0800
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Subject: new Powerbook install problem 5.10
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I can't get the Ubuntu intaller to recognize my cdrom. I get to the
graphical installer startup, language, location etc., but it asks for
a floppy(!) with my cdrom driver. It asks me to select a module and
then what is the /dev/cdrom address of my drive. It says no common
drive found, or something. I tried /cdrom, /dev/ptmx, /dev/cdrom-
which is the default. None work. Any ideas? Is my superdrive cd/dvd
dual layer too new or?



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Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 12:42:42 +0530
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Ok Thanks for that what about the broken packages ? Is it ok or what ?
Cheers
Vignesh

On 11/5/05, Dennis Kaarsemaker <[hidden email]> wrote:

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> On za, 2005-11-05 at 10:55 +0530, VIGNESH wrote:
> > How do I remove packages with dpkg ?
>
> dpkg -P $package
>
> > How do I see the list of packages ?
>
> dpkg -l
>
> See the manpage of dpkg for all details and options.
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Re: Ubuntu PDF Format Guide

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There Should be a PDF version soon, and we all need to be paitient,
bookmark and keep an eye on this 'site which is the new breezy guide'
(http://ubuntuguide.squarecows.com/doku.php) site and appears to be
coming along very nicely and has RSS feed for recent changes.

The maintainers intend to have a pdf version soon.

Can I ask why you need a pdf version now?  There may be a way that you
can make one.


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On za, 2005-11-05 at 05:59 -0500, 'Forum Post wrote:
> There Should be a PDF version soon, and we all need to be paitient,
> bookmark and keep an eye on this 'site which is the new breezy guide'

NO. Ubuntuguide should no linger be encouraged/pointed to, now that we
have proper official documentation.
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Dennis Kaarsemaker Wrote:

>
>
> NO. Ubuntuguide should no linger be encouraged/pointed to, now that we
> have proper official documentation.
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Dennis

This is a negative post.

It is a good idea to read the guidelines on 'posting a reply to a
techinical query' (http://tinyurl.com/d6859).

Rather than say something > "should no linger be encouraged/pointed to" not to be encouraged/pointed to the onus is on you to Encourage and/or
Point to a solution.


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Dennis Kaarsemaker
On zo, 2005-11-06 at 07:52 -0500, 'Forum Post wrote:

> This is a negative post.

Yes, with good reason. Ubuntuguide instructions break a lot and should
not be used.

> It is a good idea to read the guidelines on 'posting a reply to a
> techinical query' (http://tinyurl.com/d6859).

Remember that this is a mailing list governed by the code of conduct and
no other guidelines.

> Rather than say something > "should no linger be encouraged/pointed to" not to be encouraged/pointed to the onus is on you to Encourage and/or
> Point to a solution.

http://help.ubuntu.com/
'System -> help' in the ubuntu main menu.
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Dennis Kaarsemaker Wrote:

>
>
> > This is a negative post.
>
> Yes, with good reason. Ubuntuguide instructions break a lot and should
> not be used.
>
> > It is a good idea to read the guidelines on 'posting a reply to a
> > techinical query' ('http://tinyurl.com/d6859)'
> (http://tinyurl.com/d6859%29).
>
> Remember that this is a mailing list governed by the code of conduct
> and
> no other guidelines.
>
>
>
>

Dennis

I don't know the URL you are reading this from but mine reads as
follows:

http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=470720#post470720

Check out the domain, there is a big clue. This is a public forum.

I am sure you are doing tremendous work for the docs team, but you are
no help hear.

If you think that the original post should not have been on the mailing
list thread - then you can get it moved somewhere else.  You have been
no help here and it is difficult to figure out what your agenda is - I
can not see any clear 'Humanity'.

It seems as if you wish to ignore what has been written and ignore any
guidelines other than what ever happens to suit you.

However, you do mention the code of conduct, so may i respectfully
remind you:
 
- *Be considerate*  
- *Be respectful*  
- *Be collaborative*  
- *When you disagree, consult others*  
- *When you are unsure, ask for help*  
- *Step down considerately*  We'll see where we takes us, and at the end, I will step down
considerately.

But first I would like to see you get back onto the original thread
topic, reposted to a technical forum if necessary, and then fixed for
the original poster, who after all, was someone with a problem, who
needs help finding a solution.


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zach-7
The original post, as well as Dennis's reply, wasn't to the forum--it
was to the ubuntu-users mailing list.  It just happens that the
mailing list is mirrored to the forum--a service for the convenience
of forum users who don't want to sign up to the mailing list.

And with regards to Dennis's advice on avoiding unofficial
documentation, it is valid and helpful, and may help unititiated users
avoid serious breakage, potentially turning them off to Ubuntu & Linux
in general.

As far as the original question, the best place to go for
documentation is help.ubuntu.com, as mentioned previously.  As you get
more seasoned and become comfortable that you can fix things that
break, you may want to turn to unofficial guides for specific things
not covered in the official guide.  Do so at your own risk, though.

If you want PDF documentation there is a package called cups-pdf.  It
let's you create a printer that prints to a pdf file instead of a
physical printer, which is great for making web pages available to
read where there's no internet.  It takes a bit of work to get going,
but could be a sufficiently challenging project for a beginner.
(Hint: to get it working you have to edit /etc/cups/cupsd.conf and set
RunAsUser to No--this causes cups to run as root).

On the windows side, since you're using the Live CD, there is a really
great project called PDF Creator.  It is an open source project on
sourceforge.net.  You can also get it from The Open CD,
www.theopencd.org.  If you pop your Ubuntu Live CD into a Windows
computer, it contains information about The Open CD, as well as a
subset of the Open CD's windows software.

Hope this helps
Good Luck

On 11/6/05, 'Forum Post <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> Dennis Kaarsemaker Wrote:
> >
> >
> > > This is a negative post.
> >
> > Yes, with good reason. Ubuntuguide instructions break a lot and should
> > not be used.
> >
> > > It is a good idea to read the guidelines on 'posting a reply to a
> > > techinical query' ('http://tinyurl.com/d6859)'
> > (http://tinyurl.com/d6859%29).
> >
> > Remember that this is a mailing list governed by the code of conduct
> > and
> > no other guidelines.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> Dennis
>
> I don't know the URL you are reading this from but mine reads as
> follows:
>
> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=470720#post470720
>
> Check out the domain, there is a big clue. This is a public forum.
>
> I am sure you are doing tremendous work for the docs team, but you are
> no help hear.
>
> If you think that the original post should not have been on the mailing
> list thread - then you can get it moved somewhere else.  You have been
> no help here and it is difficult to figure out what your agenda is - I
> can not see any clear 'Humanity'.
>
> It seems as if you wish to ignore what has been written and ignore any
> guidelines other than what ever happens to suit you.
>
> However, you do mention the code of conduct, so may i respectfully
> remind you:
>
> - *Be considerate*
> - *Be respectful*
> - *Be collaborative*
> - *When you disagree, consult others*
> - *When you are unsure, ask for help*
> - *Step down considerately*  We'll see where we takes us, and at the end, I will step down
> considerately.
>
> But first I would like to see you get back onto the original thread
> topic, reposted to a technical forum if necessary, and then fixed for
> the original poster, who after all, was someone with a problem, who
> needs help finding a solution.
>
>
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essexman Wrote:
> Dennis

>

> I don't know the URL you are reading this from but mine reads as
> follows:

>

> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=470720#post470720

>

> Check out the domain, there is a big clue. This is a public forum.

Essexman,



This may surprise you, but this forum - is only a gateway to the
ubuntu-users mailing list. Hence the mailing list rules apply (you can
subscribe here
http://lists.ubuntulinux.org/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users if you
wish)



essexman Wrote:
> I am sure you are doing tremendous work for the docs team, but you are
> no help hear.

>

> If you think that the original post should not have been on the mailing
> list thread - then you can get it moved somewhere else.  You have been
> no help here and it is difficult to figure out what your agenda is - I
> can not see any clear 'Humanity'.Dennis is merely following the wishes of the Ubuntu developers by trying
to stear the original poster away from the dangerous/misguided/and often
incorrect ubuntu guide, to correct documentation that I will also
reiterate can be found here:

http://help.ubuntu.com/

'System -> help' in the ubuntu main menu.



essexman Wrote:
> It seems as if you wish to ignore what has been written and ignore any
> guidelines other than what ever happens to suit you.

It rather seems that Dennis is getting tired repeating this often.



essexman Wrote:
> But first I would like to see you get back onto the original thread
> topic, reposted to a technical forum if necessary, and then fixed for
> the original poster, who after all, was someone with a problem, who
> needs help finding a solution. Thank you for trying to assist the original poster, he should be able
to find useful documentation in 'System -> help' in the ubuntu main
menu, when he starts his Ubuntu system.


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Re: Ubuntu PDF Format Guide

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On zo, 2005-11-06 at 10:01 -0500, 'Forum Post wrote:
> I don't know the URL you are reading this from but mine reads as
> follows:
>
> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=470720#post470720 

This is a mailing list, the forum is merely a gateway to it. Stop
reminding me about the CoC, I know it -- I am an Ubuntu member. If you
want to play forum police, fine by me, but don't do that on the mailing
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Zach Wrote:

> The original post, as well as Dennis's reply, wasn't to the forum--it
> was to the ubuntu-users mailing list.  It just happens that the
> mailing list is mirrored to the forum--a service for the convenience
> of forum users who don't want to sign up to the mailing list.
>
> And with regards to Dennis's advice on avoiding unofficial
> documentation, it is valid and helpful, and may help unititiated users
> avoid serious breakage, potentially turning them off to Ubuntu & Linux
> in general.
>
> As far as the original question, the best place to go for
> documentation is help.ubuntu.com, as mentioned previously.  As you get
> more seasoned and become comfortable that you can fix things that
> break, you may want to turn to unofficial guides for specific things
> not covered in the official guide.  Do so at your own risk, though.
>
> If you want PDF documentation there is a package called cups-pdf.  It
> let's you create a printer that prints to a pdf file instead of a
> physical printer, which is great for making web pages available to
> read where there's no internet.  It takes a bit of work to get going,
> but could be a sufficiently challenging project for a beginner.
> (Hint: to get it working you have to edit /etc/cups/cupsd.conf and set
> RunAsUser to No--this causes cups to run as root).
>
> On the windows side, since you're using the Live CD, there is a really
> great project called PDF Creator.  It is an open source project on
> sourceforge.net.  You can also get it from The Open CD,
> 'www.theopencd.org' (http://www.theopencd.org).  If you pop your Ubuntu
> Live CD into a Windows
> computer, it contains information about The Open CD, as well as a
> subset of the Open CD's windows software.
>
> Hope this helps
> Good Luck
>
> '' (http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users)

Zach

Thanks for taking a positive and posting a response that should help
the original poster.

As to the whys and where for's of the mailing list appearing on the
forums, the fact is it is there.  I have no issue with someone posting
a better/ more useful reply to a post.  The Denis's reply, was of no
help, it doesn't really matter if it was posted to the moon.  According
to the Code of Coduct the guidlines are the same for the Mailing lists
as they are for the forums.  

The post was public and stemed from a technical querey.

Maybe you feel it would be better if the mailing lists were made
private; members only?


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On zo, 2005-11-06 at 11:24 -0500, 'Forum Post wrote:

> Maybe you feel it would be better if the mailing lists were made
> private; members only?

They are. List members just appear as guest on the forums.

My reply was helpful to the original poster, since I steer him away from
the crud that is ubuntuguide (and no, this is not a violation of the
CoC: it is preventing someone from wrecking his system).

PLease stop patronizing and playing police officer. THAT is a CoC
violation.
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On 11/6/05, 'Forum Post <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
 The Denis's reply, was of no
> help, it doesn't really matter if it was posted to the moon.  According
His reply was helpful.  The original poster now understands the risks
of what could be a potential pitfall.  So many pitfalls I could have
avoided, had someone steered me clear of conflicting HOWTOs, etc.
>
> Maybe you feel it would be better if the mailing lists were made
> private; members only?
I think my sentiment and that of many other contributers to this
thread is that this level criticism of what is posted to the mailing
list from someone who hasn't even bothered to subscribe to the list,
isn't welcome.
The list isn't private--any may join it who wish to.
Providing a gateway to the list from within the forum is a convenience
only, making it a searchable and easily accessible medium.  Those who
desire to participate actively and regularly would best serve
themselves and others by joining the list.

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On zo, 2005-11-06 at 11:56 -0500, Zach wrote:
> I think my sentiment and that of many other contributers to this
> thread is that this level criticism of what is posted to the mailing
> list from someone who hasn't even bothered to subscribe to the list,
> isn't welcome.

I couldn't agree more, especially given the amount of nonsense coming
from the forum to the list.
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Zach wrote:

> The original post, as well as Dennis's reply, wasn't to the forum--it
> was to the ubuntu-users mailing list.  It just happens that the
> mailing list is mirrored to the forum--a service for the convenience
> of forum users who don't want to sign up to the mailing list.

Wow.  It was bad enough when someone decided that the Forum should be gated
to our list and we ended up with an influx of posts from people who not
only couldn't quote but probably get annoyed that we list-users _do_.  It
was worse when someone else decided that all of those posts should appear
to be from 'Forum user.  Now they're trying to make us abide by _their_
posting rules??

I really wish the ubuntu-user admins would just break this gateway and let
both the list and the Forum go their own way.  It's one thing gating a list
to gmane news, but it's completely different, and imo unworkable, to gate
to an HTML forum.  The formats are too incompatible.
 
> And with regards to Dennis's advice on avoiding unofficial
> documentation, it is valid and helpful, and may help unititiated users
> avoid serious breakage, potentially turning them off to Ubuntu & Linux
> in general.

Yes.

>
> As far as the original question, the best place to go for
> documentation is help.ubuntu.com, as mentioned previously.  As you get
> more seasoned and become comfortable that you can fix things that
> break, you may want to turn to unofficial guides for specific things
> not covered in the official guide.  Do so at your own risk, though.
>
> If you want PDF documentation there is a package called cups-pdf.  It
> let's you create a printer that prints to a pdf file instead of a
> physical printer, which is great for making web pages available to
> read where there's no internet.  It takes a bit of work to get going,
> but could be a sufficiently challenging project for a beginner.
> (Hint: to get it working you have to edit /etc/cups/cupsd.conf and set
> RunAsUser to No--this causes cups to run as root).
>
> On the windows side, since you're using the Live CD, there is a really
> great project called PDF Creator.  It is an open source project on
> sourceforge.net.  You can also get it from The Open CD,
> www.theopencd.org.  If you pop your Ubuntu Live CD into a Windows
> computer, it contains information about The Open CD, as well as a
> subset of the Open CD's windows software.
>
> Hope this helps
> Good Luck
>
> On 11/6/05, 'Forum Post <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> I don't know the URL you are reading this from but mine reads as
>> follows:
>>
>> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=470720#post470720

Which is completely irrelevant to the ubuntu-users mailing list.  

>> However, you do mention the code of conduct, so may i respectfully
>> remind you:
>>
>> - *Be considerate*

He was.

>> - *Be respectful*

He was.  Personally, I consider anonymous posts from "'Forum post"
disrespectful.

>> - *Be collaborative*
>> - *When you disagree, consult others*

It certainly seems to be the consensus position that ubuntuguide is no
longer a reliable source of documentation, so both of those points are
covered.

>> But first I would like to see you get back onto the original thread
>> topic, reposted to a technical forum if necessary, and then fixed for
>> the original poster, who after all, was someone with a problem, who
>> needs help finding a solution.

Just because somebody asks for a specific solution doesn't mean he should be
given that advice.  The specific solution he wanted was wrong and his
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essexman Wrote:
> If people are getting tired of typing:

>

>

> Then maybe there is an issue that needs covering?  Continually posting
> sounds like another way of saying FTFM.

>

> And neither would have helped the questioner.

>

> And when I recommend that people follow the guidelines, it is because
> they are good guidlines.

>

> And nothing surprises me.

Thank you for looking down at me, I had assumed that you were trying to
be genuinely helpful, but alas, it seems you wanted to play forum
policeman. Had I wished to say Read The F***ng Manual, I assure I
would.



Now, lets be honest here, the original poster wants to Ubuntuguide
because they want some information in there. What that is, we don't
know, because they didn't tell us, so we can't point them in the
direction of accurate documentaion already on their Ubuntu system, so
instead we point to a website, and the help button on their system.



You don't seem to think this is helpful. I think you are rather biased,
with your complaints about the mailing list here
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=86717 and your patronising
tone is not appreciated.





As for that link you posted to the new (but not improved ubuntu guide),
shall I start to point out problems with it ?



hmm, lets see, how about these repositories it tells you to add

ubuntuguide Wrote:
>

> ## Backports

>

> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ breezy-extras main
> multiverse restricted universe

>

> ## Staging + extras

>

> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ breezy-backports-staging
> main multiverse restricted universe

> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ breezy-extras-staging main
> multiverse restricted universe

Yes, lets add repo's that are likely to break our system. There are
offical ubuntu backports, but I don't see that in the guide.



I know, lets break the system but f***ing around with the internet
conection, like with the gem that starts like this

ubuntuguide Wrote:
> wget -c http://frankandjacq.com/ubuntuguide/rp-pppoe-3.6.tar.gz

> sudo tar zxvf rp-pppoe-3.6.tar.gz -C /opt/

> sudo chown -R root:root /opt/rp-pppoe-3.6/

> sudo gedit /usr/share/applications/RP-PPPoE.desktop

Considering that pppoe is in universe, this dangerous (possibly
trojaned) software is unneeded. Oddly enough, ppp (in main) connects
well over "pppoe" connections, how do I know - I'm using it right now.



Shall I go on ? OK how about the fact that it is assumed you have an
i386 machine. If you don't, say you have amd64 or powerpc - ubuntuguide
will not work for you. Please do tell, why won't this

ubuntuguide Wrote:
> sudo apt-get install w32codecs

work on amd64 or powerpc ? It's in ubuntuguide, it must work, but not
on my system. It won't work so ubuntu must be teh suxsors right ?


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Derek

Thank you for pointing out that my posts were anonymus.  I was not away
of this and you can see thing from my point of view ( if you want to)
here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=86406&page=2

I apologise to this mailing list for apearing like an obnoxius
outsider; I had not realised that this was the case.


I have been subscribed to the list for some time - but the likelyhood
of me participating is now zero.

I hope people feel very good about venting their anger on me, and I
hope the original poster now has a working printer.


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Yagisan, Dennis, and Zach

I have calmed down now, (and eaten), and would like to apologise to you
all.

I have unwittingly stumbled in on your territory, and caused offence
and this was not my intention.

If I am not the first person to do this, and you all feel this needs
preventing then a solution might be to have Ryan adjust the posting
rules to make the list 'View only" from the forums?


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zach-7
I doubt seriously that anyone is offended.  And as mentioned before
this is an open list anyone may join who wishes to do so.  It isn't
anyone's territory.  Open debate is part of the spirit of open source.

On 11/6/05, 'Forum Post <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> Yagisan, Dennis, and Zach
>
> I have calmed down now, (and eaten), and would like to apologise to you
> all.
>
> I have unwittingly stumbled in on your territory, and caused offence
> and this was not my intention.
>
> If I am not the first person to do this, and you all feel this needs
> preventing then a solution might be to have Ryan adjust the posting
> rules to make the list 'View only" from the forums?
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essexman Wrote:
> Yagisan, Dennis, and Zach

>

> I have calmed down now, (and eaten), and would like to apologise to you
> all.

>

> I have unwittingly stumbled in on your territory, and caused offence
> and this was not my intention.

>

> If I am not the first person to do this, and you all feel this needs
> preventing then a solution might be to have Ryan adjust the posting
> rules to make the list 'View only" from the forums?

I'm not offended, and if I seem abrasive, my apologies. All of us wish
to stear the original poster to suitable documentation, we obviously
disagree on what is suitable documentation. To make it clear, I am in
no way, shape, or form affliated with the doc team, nor do I consider
the list my territory



Please continue to join in on the list, as all are welcome.



Regards

Yagisan (who is away from his pc, and hence is using the forum to post)


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