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Ubuntu Studio and Xubuntu collaboration

Erich Eickmeyer-2
Hi all,

If you don't know who I am, I'm the current leader of Ubuntu Studio.
Most of you also know that our default desktop environment is Xfce, so
we share a lot in common. In the past there had been at least some
collaboration, but that seems to have gone away in recent years, mostly
due to a lack of participation on the Ubuntu Studio end.

I'm trying to figure out the best way to stay up-to-date on the default
configuration and packages. The quasi-deprecation of xfce4-volumed
caught us off-guard, and now, for several releases, we have a version of
xfce4-volumed that does not reconnect to PulseAudio if it is restarted.
Apparently, and from my own tests, xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin does this
much better, and the indicator-* packages should be removed from our
seed. I have put forth the request to do this and have modified our
panel for future releases to use the pulseaudio plugin.

I guess I would like to prevent information like changes to the default
panel from being missed in the future. Unfortunately, I have no idea how
to do this. Perhaps somebody has some ideas on how we can accomplish
this and work together. I monitor #xubuntu-devel on IRC, and I'm now
subscribed to this list, but if there's any other way for me to be
notified about things that affect Ubuntu Studio, such as changes to the
default Xubuntu desktop (which we should mirror), let me know.

Thanks,
Erich
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Ubuntu Studio
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Re: Ubuntu Studio and Xubuntu collaboration

Pasi Lallinaho-3
Hello Erich,

the two places you mention – #xubuntu-devel and the mailing list – are the correct places to follow changes we might be making that might also affect you.

Sometimes some discussion might also slip into #xubuntu-offtopic even if it shouldn't. I guess we all should keep a closer eye on posting to the correct channel(s).

Lately, as Xfce has been migrating towards GTK3, a lot discussion has also happened on #xfce-dev, so you might want to join that channel as well. There shouldn't be any Ubuntu-specific discussion as-is, but changes required from/sensible for distributions using Xfce have been discussed there as well. (I guess a few Xubuntu-specific comments might also have made there, but again our team should try to keep these in #xubuntu-devel.)

Again, what you describe sounds pretty sane/comprehensive already. If you have the time and patience to go an extra mile, I welcome you to make more noise on #xubuntu-devel; we will happily work with you and help you out with any Xfce-related questions you might have. If you have any suggestions/ideas on making the Xfce defaults in the Ubuntu ecosystem better for us all, we will happily hear those as well.

The Xubuntu team is relatively small as well, so replying might take some time. Most of the time we do get back to things, but if not, feel free to repeat your question. We will eventually get there... :)

Cheers,
Pasi

On 24.5.2019 21.32, Erich Eickmeyer wrote:
Hi all,

If you don't know who I am, I'm the current leader of Ubuntu Studio.
Most of you also know that our default desktop environment is Xfce, so
we share a lot in common. In the past there had been at least some
collaboration, but that seems to have gone away in recent years, mostly
due to a lack of participation on the Ubuntu Studio end.

I'm trying to figure out the best way to stay up-to-date on the default
configuration and packages. The quasi-deprecation of xfce4-volumed
caught us off-guard, and now, for several releases, we have a version of
xfce4-volumed that does not reconnect to PulseAudio if it is restarted.
Apparently, and from my own tests, xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin does this
much better, and the indicator-* packages should be removed from our
seed. I have put forth the request to do this and have modified our
panel for future releases to use the pulseaudio plugin.

I guess I would like to prevent information like changes to the default
panel from being missed in the future. Unfortunately, I have no idea how
to do this. Perhaps somebody has some ideas on how we can accomplish
this and work together. I monitor #xubuntu-devel on IRC, and I'm now
subscribed to this list, but if there's any other way for me to be
notified about things that affect Ubuntu Studio, such as changes to the
default Xubuntu desktop (which we should mirror), let me know.

Thanks,
Erich
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Council Chair/Product Leader
Ubuntu Studio
ubuntustudio.org





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Xfce contributor               › https://xfce.org/
Shimmer Project co-founder     › https://shimmerproject.org/

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Re: Ubuntu Studio and Xubuntu collaboration

Sean Davis
Hello Erich,

I'd like to invite you and the rest of the Studio folks to our next community meeting!

It will be Friday, June 14th at 2200 UTC on #xubuntu-devel. Feel free to join in and let's have a fun discussion. :-)

Thanks!
Sean

On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 4:40 AM Pasi Lallinaho <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hello Erich,

the two places you mention – #xubuntu-devel and the mailing list – are the correct places to follow changes we might be making that might also affect you.

Sometimes some discussion might also slip into #xubuntu-offtopic even if it shouldn't. I guess we all should keep a closer eye on posting to the correct channel(s).

Lately, as Xfce has been migrating towards GTK3, a lot discussion has also happened on #xfce-dev, so you might want to join that channel as well. There shouldn't be any Ubuntu-specific discussion as-is, but changes required from/sensible for distributions using Xfce have been discussed there as well. (I guess a few Xubuntu-specific comments might also have made there, but again our team should try to keep these in #xubuntu-devel.)

Again, what you describe sounds pretty sane/comprehensive already. If you have the time and patience to go an extra mile, I welcome you to make more noise on #xubuntu-devel; we will happily work with you and help you out with any Xfce-related questions you might have. If you have any suggestions/ideas on making the Xfce defaults in the Ubuntu ecosystem better for us all, we will happily hear those as well.

The Xubuntu team is relatively small as well, so replying might take some time. Most of the time we do get back to things, but if not, feel free to repeat your question. We will eventually get there... :)

Cheers,
Pasi

On 24.5.2019 21.32, Erich Eickmeyer wrote:
Hi all,

If you don't know who I am, I'm the current leader of Ubuntu Studio.
Most of you also know that our default desktop environment is Xfce, so
we share a lot in common. In the past there had been at least some
collaboration, but that seems to have gone away in recent years, mostly
due to a lack of participation on the Ubuntu Studio end.

I'm trying to figure out the best way to stay up-to-date on the default
configuration and packages. The quasi-deprecation of xfce4-volumed
caught us off-guard, and now, for several releases, we have a version of
xfce4-volumed that does not reconnect to PulseAudio if it is restarted.
Apparently, and from my own tests, xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin does this
much better, and the indicator-* packages should be removed from our
seed. I have put forth the request to do this and have modified our
panel for future releases to use the pulseaudio plugin.

I guess I would like to prevent information like changes to the default
panel from being missed in the future. Unfortunately, I have no idea how
to do this. Perhaps somebody has some ideas on how we can accomplish
this and work together. I monitor #xubuntu-devel on IRC, and I'm now
subscribed to this list, but if there's any other way for me to be
notified about things that affect Ubuntu Studio, such as changes to the
default Xubuntu desktop (which we should mirror), let me know.

Thanks,
Erich
---
Erich Eickmeyer
Council Chair/Product Leader
Ubuntu Studio
ubuntustudio.org





-- 
Pasi Lallinaho (knome)         › https://open.knome.fi/
Xubuntu Website Lead           › https://xubuntu.org/
Xfce contributor               › https://xfce.org/
Shimmer Project co-founder     › https://shimmerproject.org/
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