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help on debugging desktop issue?

Alan Lord (News)
Hi all,

At the weekend I upgraded my desktop PC from 18.04 to 20.04. Every
morning after power up when I log in, once the desktop loads, any icons
on the desktop do not get drawn and all of the launcher buttons do not
respond to mouse clicks (nor does the top bar) so I have to CTL+ALT+F5
and login to a shell and reboot. If I move my ~/.config directory out of
the way, before I log in, then the desktop works OK for the rest of that
day. I can copy directories from the moved ~/.config (for things like
Chrome history, nautilus bookmarks, etc...)

But the following day, after being powered down I have the same problem
when I login in the morning. It's a PITA.

I've also tried removing the ~/.cache dir and that doesn't seem to help
at all. I am loathe to move ~./local as this has over 70 sub directories
in it with years of useful metadata in it I guess. It would take ages to
work out which dir (if there is one) is the cause...


How do I go about debugging this? What log files are likely to be
relevant? Anyone seen anything similar?


Just FYI, I'm not at home today so no rush....  Am on my laptop which I
upgraded to 20.04 a while ago with no problems at all ;-)


Cheers

Al


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Re: help on debugging desktop issue?

Liam Proven
On Wed, 7 Oct 2020 at 10:12, Alan Lord <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> Hi all,

Hi Alan. Long time no see.

> At the weekend I upgraded my desktop PC from 18.04 to 20.04. Every
> morning after power up when I log in, once the desktop loads, any icons
> on the desktop do not get drawn and all of the launcher buttons do not
> respond to mouse clicks (nor does the top bar) so I have to CTL+ALT+F5
> and login to a shell and reboot. If I move my ~/.config directory out of
> the way, before I log in, then the desktop works OK for the rest of that
> day. I can copy directories from the moved ~/.config (for things like
> Chrome history, nautilus bookmarks, etc...)

This is with GNOME, I presume?

I'd guess that you have some extensions or something to customise your
GNOME setup? I cannot get on with GNOME 3 at all, and one of the
issues is that if I add a ton of extensions, I can turn it into
something more like Unity or Windows or something -- but then the next
GNOME version upgrade inevitably horribly breaks the whole thing, and
I have to completely nuke my GNOME config and start over. (And each
time it's extra work, because some extensions are incompatible with
the new version, or have gone out of support, or have changed name or
been forked, etc.)

So I stopped using GNOME altogether. I am currently trialling the
Unity remix, but it's a bit bloated and still has a ton of GNOME
accessories with the b****y silly "client side decorations" etc. Not
ideal. My other alternative, and my default on other distros, is Xfce.

My suggestions would be:
[1] to do some investigation of how you can selectively delete your
GNOME customisations and leave your email settings or whatever you
need intact.
[2] seriously consider switching desktops. There are other projects
out there which listen to their users.
[3] I'd suggest trying to get the GNOME team to address this, by
adding a GNOME safe mode, or a settings-sanitising tool, or something
like that, but trying to get the GNOME devs to accept that something
is less than perfect is what Douglas Adams would have called a
"recreational impossibility". The fact that they chose Javascript to
implement GNOME Shell tells you all you need to know about their
position towards reliability, stability, supportability etc.

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Re: help on debugging desktop issue?

Alan Lord (News)
Just as a follow up on this one. I gave up trying to fix my existing
user - I couldn't really find much online as to what the issue might
have been, and not much on the logs either.

So I just created a new user, and then moved all the data I needed
across to that one. It was a PITA and took ages but at least it works
now. One bonus is I now have a clean desktop again ;-)

Al


On 07/10/2020 13:02, Liam Proven wrote:

> On Wed, 7 Oct 2020 at 10:12, Alan Lord <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>
> Hi Alan. Long time no see.
>
>> At the weekend I upgraded my desktop PC from 18.04 to 20.04. Every
>> morning after power up when I log in, once the desktop loads, any icons
>> on the desktop do not get drawn and all of the launcher buttons do not
>> respond to mouse clicks (nor does the top bar) so I have to CTL+ALT+F5
>> and login to a shell and reboot. If I move my ~/.config directory out of
>> the way, before I log in, then the desktop works OK for the rest of that
>> day. I can copy directories from the moved ~/.config (for things like
>> Chrome history, nautilus bookmarks, etc...)



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