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kernel updates for k12.04

ray burke
Anyone 9/9/2017...

my system comes up with next kernel update but does not shows
in Muon update,as my kernel updates are at maximum?
so cause my kernel updates are full It wont du\o any updates?

see 2 attachments..

with the grub2-bootloader under system settings in the default entry shows-
Ubuntu with Linux 3.2.0.126-generic-pae and when I click the down button shows
down to-
Ubuntu with Linux 3.2.0.32-generic-pae, so if click the next tab "remove
old entries" will it remove that one or all.
all with that email I received from Alan Dacey on to specify how many kernels,
there is no /root/boot/grub/menu.lst, so I cant change the amount, and reduce
the number to 10-15 kernel up-dates in the default entry?

Ray
Grub2 boot-loader attached
Gmail about kernel update attached

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Re: kernel updates for k12.04

Nils Kassube-2
ray burke wrote:
> my system comes up with next kernel update but does not shows
> in Muon update,as my kernel updates are at maximum?
> so cause my kernel updates are full It wont du\o any updates?

I don't think you will get any kernel updates because 12.04 has reached EOL:
<https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2017-March/000218.html>


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Re: kernel updates for k12.04

ray burke
Nils,

but my system still comes up with 3 updates that Flashy up on muon icon,
but never comes up with the  install feature, and I believe cause my number of kernels
has reached the limit that is specified?

Ray

On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 5:43 PM, Nils Kassube <[hidden email]> wrote:
ray burke wrote:
> my system comes up with next kernel update but does not shows
> in Muon update,as my kernel updates are at maximum?
> so cause my kernel updates are full It wont du\o any updates?

I don't think you will get any kernel updates because 12.04 has reached EOL:
<https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2017-March/000218.html>


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Re: kernel updates for k12.04

Valorie Zimmerman
Ray, please read the post that Nils linked to,

<https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2017-March/000218.html>.

"EOL" means end-of-life, and no more support. We cannot support this
release now or give you any useful advice. Please back up your files
and upgrade or better yet, install 16.04.3, the latest upgrade to our
latest LTS.

Here is the news story about it:

https://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-16-04-3-lts-update-available/

Valorie

On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 1:59 PM, ray burke <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Nils,
>
> but my system still comes up with 3 updates that Flashy up on muon icon,
> but never comes up with the  install feature, and I believe cause my number
> of kernels
> has reached the limit that is specified?
>
> Ray
>
> On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 5:43 PM, Nils Kassube <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> ray burke wrote:
>> > my system comes up with next kernel update but does not shows
>> > in Muon update,as my kernel updates are at maximum?
>> > so cause my kernel updates are full It wont du\o any updates?
>>
>> I don't think you will get any kernel updates because 12.04 has reached
>> EOL:
>> <https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2017-March/000218.html>
>>
>>
>> Nils
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Re: kernel updates for k12.04

ray burke
Valorie Zimmerman,

well why does it come up with 3 updates to   install but no info of
them?, and how can
I update to the 16.04.3 and have a mobile broadband stick(dongle) run
and dialup like
on my 12.04, as I have installed from scratch a new install of k16.10
on another stand alone disc but cant get either the dongle/dial-up to
work?

Ray

On 9/13/17, Valorie Zimmerman <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Ray, please read the post that Nils linked to,
>
> <https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2017-March/000218.html>.
>
> "EOL" means end-of-life, and no more support. We cannot support this
> release now or give you any useful advice. Please back up your files
> and upgrade or better yet, install 16.04.3, the latest upgrade to our
> latest LTS.
>
> Here is the news story about it:
>
> https://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-16-04-3-lts-update-available/
>
> Valorie
>
> On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 1:59 PM, ray burke <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Nils,
>>
>> but my system still comes up with 3 updates that Flashy up on muon icon,
>> but never comes up with the  install feature, and I believe cause my
>> number
>> of kernels
>> has reached the limit that is specified?
>>
>> Ray
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 5:43 PM, Nils Kassube <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> ray burke wrote:
>>> > my system comes up with next kernel update but does not shows
>>> > in Muon update,as my kernel updates are at maximum?
>>> > so cause my kernel updates are full It wont du\o any updates?
>>>
>>> I don't think you will get any kernel updates because 12.04 has reached
>>> EOL:
>>> <https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2017-March/000218.html>
>>>
>>>
>>> Nils
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Re: kernel updates for k12.04

ray burke
Valorie Zimmerman,

I search my Kubuntu library of .ISO's from 8.04LTS and found a DVD of
K14.04 desktop iso, could that used as an upgrade from K12.04 to K14.04 desktop?

ray

On 9/13/17, ray burke <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Valorie Zimmerman,
>
> well why does it come up with 3 updates to   install but no info of
> them?, and how can
> I update to the 16.04.3 and have a mobile broadband stick(dongle) run
> and dialup like
> on my 12.04, as I have installed from scratch a new install of k16.10
> on another stand alone disc but cant get either the dongle/dial-up to
> work?
>
> Ray
> PS I read that link and noticed that I can upgrade from 12.04lts to 14.04,
> by entering in the command line "update manager" and then the muon icon
> for upgrade and shows window like in attached, so how much download does
> it take, as only dial-up and mobile broadband limited to 1gb off peak and
> 1gb
> peak, or easier to download and save the .iso to a usb stick at the
> local library
> and install that way?
>
> Ray
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Re: kernel updates for k12.04

Valorie Zimmerman
Hi Ray,

On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 9:42 PM, ray burke <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Valorie Zimmerman,
>
> I search my Kubuntu library of .ISO's from 8.04LTS and found a DVD of
> K14.04 desktop iso, could that used as an upgrade from K12.04 to K14.04 desktop?
>
> ray

Yes, you could do that. Please test the liveDVD first, and check to
see that your dongle works, and other functions that are important to
you.

If you do the upgrade that way, be *sure* to upgrade via Muon as soon
as possible. 14.04 is up to 14.04.5 now.

All the best,

Valorie

> On 9/13/17, ray burke <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Valorie Zimmerman,
>>
>> well why does it come up with 3 updates to   install but no info of
>> them?, and how can
>> I update to the 16.04.3 and have a mobile broadband stick(dongle) run
>> and dialup like
>> on my 12.04, as I have installed from scratch a new install of k16.10
>> on another stand alone disc but cant get either the dongle/dial-up to
>> work?
>>
>> Ray
>> PS I read that link and noticed that I can upgrade from 12.04lts to 14.04,
>> by entering in the command line "update manager" and then the muon icon
>> for upgrade and shows window like in attached, so how much download does
>> it take, as only dial-up and mobile broadband limited to 1gb off peak and
>> 1gb
>> peak, or easier to download and save the .iso to a usb stick at the
>> local library
>> and install that way?
>>
>> Ray
>>
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Re: kernel updates for k12.04

ray burke
Valorie,

what about if I  do it thru Muon upgrade as shown in attached that  I sent,  what would be
the amount of download thru internet as explained have only thru my dongle 1gb off peak
and 1gb peak, also shows Ubuntu 14.04 upgrade,  does it mean Kubuntu 14.04?

Ray
PS I have already tried with live cd and also when I put it onto a spare hdd

On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 3:50 PM, Valorie Zimmerman <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Ray,

On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 9:42 PM, ray burke <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Valorie Zimmerman,
>
> I search my Kubuntu library of .ISO's from 8.04LTS and found a DVD of
> K14.04 desktop iso, could that used as an upgrade from K12.04 to K14.04 desktop?
>
> ray

Yes, you could do that. Please test the liveDVD first, and check to
see that your dongle works, and other functions that are important to
you.

If you do the upgrade that way, be *sure* to upgrade via Muon as soon
as possible. 14.04 is up to 14.04.5 now.

All the best,

Valorie

> On 9/13/17, ray burke <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Valorie Zimmerman,
>>
>> well why does it come up with 3 updates to   install but no info of
>> them?, and how can
>> I update to the 16.04.3 and have a mobile broadband stick(dongle) run
>> and dialup like
>> on my 12.04, as I have installed from scratch a new install of k16.10
>> on another stand alone disc but cant get either the dongle/dial-up to
>> work?
>>
>> Ray
>> PS I read that link and noticed that I can upgrade from 12.04lts to 14.04,
>> by entering in the command line "update manager" and then the muon icon
>> for upgrade and shows window like in attached, so how much download does
>> it take, as only dial-up and mobile broadband limited to 1gb off peak and
>> 1gb
>> peak, or easier to download and save the .iso to a usb stick at the
>> local library
>> and install that way?
>>
>> Ray
>>
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Re: kernel updates for k12.04

Valorie Zimmerman
It will be a large download, yes, and it will take some time. Fresh
installs are always faster than upgrades, because the updater has to
not only download and install, but test that everything is good before
deleting the old stuff. If you can upgrade using the DVD you have,
fewer packages will need to be downloaded.

It is still important to check repeatedly that you have completely
updated once you restart to your newly upgraded Kubuntu 14.04.

I'll be off to a family wedding for a few days; best of luck for success!

Valorie

On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 2:01 PM, ray burke <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Valorie,
>
> what about if I  do it thru Muon upgrade as shown in attached that  I sent,
> what would be
> the amount of download thru internet as explained have only thru my dongle
> 1gb off peak
> and 1gb peak, also shows Ubuntu 14.04 upgrade,  does it mean Kubuntu 14.04?
>
> Ray
> PS I have already tried with live cd and also when I put it onto a spare hdd
>
> On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 3:50 PM, Valorie Zimmerman
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Ray,
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 9:42 PM, ray burke <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> > Valorie Zimmerman,
>> >
>> > I search my Kubuntu library of .ISO's from 8.04LTS and found a DVD of
>> > K14.04 desktop iso, could that used as an upgrade from K12.04 to K14.04
>> > desktop?
>> >
>> > ray
>>
>> Yes, you could do that. Please test the liveDVD first, and check to
>> see that your dongle works, and other functions that are important to
>> you.
>>
>> If you do the upgrade that way, be *sure* to upgrade via Muon as soon
>> as possible. 14.04 is up to 14.04.5 now.
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Valorie
>>
>> > On 9/13/17, ray burke <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >> Valorie Zimmerman,
>> >>
>> >> well why does it come up with 3 updates to   install but no info of
>> >> them?, and how can
>> >> I update to the 16.04.3 and have a mobile broadband stick(dongle) run
>> >> and dialup like
>> >> on my 12.04, as I have installed from scratch a new install of k16.10
>> >> on another stand alone disc but cant get either the dongle/dial-up to
>> >> work?
>> >>
>> >> Ray
>> >> PS I read that link and noticed that I can upgrade from 12.04lts to
>> >> 14.04,
>> >> by entering in the command line "update manager" and then the muon icon
>> >> for upgrade and shows window like in attached, so how much download
>> >> does
>> >> it take, as only dial-up and mobile broadband limited to 1gb off peak
>> >> and
>> >> 1gb
>> >> peak, or easier to download and save the .iso to a usb stick at the
>> >> local library
>> >> and install that way?
>> >>
>> >> Ray

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Re: kernel updates for k12.04

ray burke
Valorie 15/9/2017...

I cloned my k12.04 to vacant 160gb sata dive. Then this morning I
booted up then connected
thru my mobile broadband stick and ran the upgrade thru muon updater,
it said after step 6 that there was 1365 packages to install and i
have to download 874mb. and this would take about 10mins, so I then
click the "start upgrade".
It then took about 1.5 hrs to complete till it reached "restart the
system to complete the upgrade",
so I clicked restart now tab.
it then rebooted,and brought up my logon screen, entered my password,
then went away and brought up a Black screen, with cursor button, and
nothing else except, my PopPeeper.exc (email notifier)and reminder.exc
(birthday events notifier) which both run thru wine. Then a window pop
up saying-
"no system tray detected on this system"
"unable to start exiting"

So how do you think I fix?

Ray
PS I ran dual boot systems win7/K12.04, and the upgrade picked this up
and in the grub,
I am able to either boot win7/k14.04(not successful as Black screen?



On 9/15/17, Valorie Zimmerman <[hidden email]> wrote:

> It will be a large download, yes, and it will take some time. Fresh
> installs are always faster than upgrades, because the updater has to
> not only download and install, but test that everything is good before
> deleting the old stuff. If you can upgrade using the DVD you have,
> fewer packages will need to be downloaded.
>
> It is still important to check repeatedly that you have completely
> updated once you restart to your newly upgraded Kubuntu 14.04.
>
> I'll be off to a family wedding for a few days; best of luck for success!
>
> Valorie
>
> On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 2:01 PM, ray burke <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Valorie,
>>
>> what about if I  do it thru Muon upgrade as shown in attached that  I
>> sent,
>> what would be
>> the amount of download thru internet as explained have only thru my dongle
>> 1gb off peak
>> and 1gb peak, also shows Ubuntu 14.04 upgrade,  does it mean Kubuntu
>> 14.04?
>>
>> Ray
>> PS I have already tried with live cd and also when I put it onto a spare
>> hdd
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 3:50 PM, Valorie Zimmerman
>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Ray,
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 9:42 PM, ray burke <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> > Valorie Zimmerman,
>>> >
>>> > I search my Kubuntu library of .ISO's from 8.04LTS and found a DVD of
>>> > K14.04 desktop iso, could that used as an upgrade from K12.04 to K14.04
>>> > desktop?
>>> >
>>> > ray
>>>
>>> Yes, you could do that. Please test the liveDVD first, and check to
>>> see that your dongle works, and other functions that are important to
>>> you.
>>>
>>> If you do the upgrade that way, be *sure* to upgrade via Muon as soon
>>> as possible. 14.04 is up to 14.04.5 now.
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>>
>>> Valorie
>>>
>>> > On 9/13/17, ray burke <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> >> Valorie Zimmerman,
>>> >>
>>> >> well why does it come up with 3 updates to   install but no info of
>>> >> them?, and how can
>>> >> I update to the 16.04.3 and have a mobile broadband stick(dongle) run
>>> >> and dialup like
>>> >> on my 12.04, as I have installed from scratch a new install of k16.10
>>> >> on another stand alone disc but cant get either the dongle/dial-up to
>>> >> work?
>>> >>
>>> >> Ray
>>> >> PS I read that link and noticed that I can upgrade from 12.04lts to
>>> >> 14.04,
>>> >> by entering in the command line "update manager" and then the muon
>>> >> icon
>>> >> for upgrade and shows window like in attached, so how much download
>>> >> does
>>> >> it take, as only dial-up and mobile broadband limited to 1gb off peak
>>> >> and
>>> >> 1gb
>>> >> peak, or easier to download and save the .iso to a usb stick at the
>>> >> local library
>>> >> and install that way?
>>> >>
>>> >> Ray
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Re: kernel updates for k12.04

Nils Kassube-2
ray burke wrote:

> I cloned my k12.04 to vacant 160gb sata dive. Then this morning I
> booted up then connected
> thru my mobile broadband stick and ran the upgrade thru muon updater,
> it said after step 6 that there was 1365 packages to install and i
> have to download 874mb. and this would take about 10mins, so I then
> click the "start upgrade".
> It then took about 1.5 hrs to complete till it reached "restart the
> system to complete the upgrade",
> so I clicked restart now tab.
> it then rebooted,and brought up my logon screen, entered my password,
> then went away and brought up a Black screen, with cursor button, and
> nothing else except, my PopPeeper.exc (email notifier)and reminder.exc
> (birthday events notifier) which both run thru wine.

At least your system is partly working if those GUI programs are started
automatically.

> Then a window
> pop up saying-
> "no system tray detected on this system"
> "unable to start exiting"

Searching for "no system tray detected", every result indicates that the
problem is related to hplip. If your error message actually starts with
"HPLIP Status Service: No system tray detected", then it would be
confirmed and there seem to be several different solutions. In any case,
you will need a command line. I'm not sure if you can start programs
with ALT-F2 now, but if that is possible, you should start "konsole".
Otherwise you should get a VT with CTRL-ALT-F2. Log in with your usual
credentials and run the command

DISPLAY=:0 konsole &

then press CTRL-ALT-F7 to return to the GUI where you should have
konsole running.

In both cases you can now enter commands. I would first try:

/usr/bin/hp-systray

If that doesn't help, you could remove your configuration directory for
hplip:

rm -r ~/.hplip

and reboot.

And if that doesn't help, you could uninstall hplip (you can reinstall
it later, if you need it):

sudo apt-get remove hplip

and reboot.


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Re: kernel updates for k12.04

ray burke
Nils 15/9/2017..

What you mean "Otherwise you should get a VT with CTRL-ALT-F2. Log in
with your usual
credentials and run the command"

VT ?

Ray


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> ray burke wrote:
>> I cloned my k12.04 to vacant 160gb sata dive. Then this morning I
>> booted up then connected
>> thru my mobile broadband stick and ran the upgrade thru muon updater,
>> it said after step 6 that there was 1365 packages to install and i
>> have to download 874mb. and this would take about 10mins, so I then
>> click the "start upgrade".
>> It then took about 1.5 hrs to complete till it reached "restart the
>> system to complete the upgrade",
>> so I clicked restart now tab.
>> it then rebooted,and brought up my logon screen, entered my password,
>> then went away and brought up a Black screen, with cursor button, and
>> nothing else except, my PopPeeper.exc (email notifier)and reminder.exc
>> (birthday events notifier) which both run thru wine.
>
> At least your system is partly working if those GUI programs are started
> automatically.
>
>> Then a window
>> pop up saying-
>> "no system tray detected on this system"
>> "unable to start exiting"
>
> Searching for "no system tray detected", every result indicates that the
> problem is related to hplip. If your error message actually starts with
> "HPLIP Status Service: No system tray detected", then it would be
> confirmed and there seem to be several different solutions. In any case,
> you will need a command line. I'm not sure if you can start programs
> with ALT-F2 now, but if that is possible, you should start "konsole".
> Otherwise you should get a VT with CTRL-ALT-F2. Log in with your usual
> credentials and run the command
>
> DISPLAY=:0 konsole &
>
> then press CTRL-ALT-F7 to return to the GUI where you should have
> konsole running.
>
> In both cases you can now enter commands. I would first try:
>
> /usr/bin/hp-systray
>
> If that doesn't help, you could remove your configuration directory for
> hplip:
>
> rm -r ~/.hplip
>
> and reboot.
>
> And if that doesn't help, you could uninstall hplip (you can reinstall
> it later, if you need it):
>
> sudo apt-get remove hplip
>
> and reboot.
>
>
> Nils
>
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Nils Kassube-2
ray burke wrote:
> Nils 15/9/2017..
>
> What you mean "Otherwise you should get a VT with CTRL-ALT-F2. Log in
> with your usual
> credentials and run the command"
>
> VT ?

VT = virtual terminal - that's the command line interface without GUI
(graphical user interface). It is useful, if you have problems with the
GUI - there you can still run commands to solve these problems. If you
can start konsole with the run dialog (ALT-F2), you don't need it
though.


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Re: kernel updates for k12.04

ray burke
Nils,

OK thanks will  give it a go when I boot up from my new K14.04
and hope I get to work?

Ray

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> ray burke wrote:
>> Nils 15/9/2017..
>>
>> What you mean "Otherwise you should get a VT with CTRL-ALT-F2. Log in
>> with your usual
>> credentials and run the command"
>>
>> VT ?
>
> VT = virtual terminal - that's the command line interface without GUI
> (graphical user interface). It is useful, if you have problems with the
> GUI - there you can still run commands to solve these problems. If you
> can start konsole with the run dialog (ALT-F2), you don't need it
> though.
>
>
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Re: kernel updates for k12.04

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Nils 16/9/2017...

I followed your instructions- and the only thing that worked was sudo apt-get remove hplip and reboot.

then rebooted,and brought up my logon screen, entered my password,
then went away and brought up a Black screen, with cursor button, and
nothing else except, my PopPeeper.exc (email notifier)and reminder.exc
(birthday events notifier) which both run thru wine. got rid of systray error,
but I remember that hplip is the Hewlett Packard printer 1200c, which sat down
in the bottom task bar with other icons. I still have no desktop, just black screen.

So how do you think I fix?

Ray

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Nils,

OK thanks will  give it a go when I boot up from my new K14.04
and hope I get to work?

Ray

On 9/15/17, Nils Kassube <[hidden email]> wrote:
> ray burke wrote:
>> Nils 15/9/2017..
>>
>> What you mean "Otherwise you should get a VT with CTRL-ALT-F2. Log in
>> with your usual
>> credentials and run the command"
>>
>> VT ?
>
> VT = virtual terminal - that's the command line interface without GUI
> (graphical user interface). It is useful, if you have problems with the
> GUI - there you can still run commands to solve these problems. If you
> can start konsole with the run dialog (ALT-F2), you don't need it
> though.
>
>
> Nils
>
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Fwd: kernel updates for k12.04

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From: ray burke <[hidden email]>
Date: Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 7:37 AM
Subject: Re: kernel updates for k12.04
To: Kubuntu user technical support <[hidden email]>


Nils 16/9/2017...

I followed your instructions- and the only thing that worked was sudo apt-get remove hplip and reboot.

then rebooted,and brought up my logon screen, entered my password,
then went away and brought up a Black screen, with cursor button, and
nothing else except, my PopPeeper.exc (email notifier)and reminder.exc
(birthday events notifier) which both run thru wine. got rid of systray error,
but I remember that hplip is the Hewlett Packard printer 1200c, which sat down
in the bottom task bar with other icons. I still have no desktop, just black screen.

So how do you think I fix?

Ray
PS Is there a way I can upgrade from a K14.04LTS .iso DVD by changing the
software settings in the Muon settings to include CD Rom, after cloning back
to before I ran the online upgrade?


On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 5:03 PM, ray burke <[hidden email]> wrote:
Nils,

OK thanks will  give it a go when I boot up from my new K14.04
and hope I get to work?

Ray

On 9/15/17, Nils Kassube <[hidden email]> wrote:
> ray burke wrote:
>> Nils 15/9/2017..
>>
>> What you mean "Otherwise you should get a VT with CTRL-ALT-F2. Log in
>> with your usual
>> credentials and run the command"
>>
>> VT ?
>
> VT = virtual terminal - that's the command line interface without GUI
> (graphical user interface). It is useful, if you have problems with the
> GUI - there you can still run commands to solve these problems. If you
> can start konsole with the run dialog (ALT-F2), you don't need it
> though.
>
>
> Nils
>
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Re: Fwd: kernel updates for k12.04

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ray burke wrote:

> I followed your instructions- and the only thing that worked was sudo
> apt-get remove hplip and reboot.
>
> then rebooted,and brought up my logon screen, entered my password,
> then went away and brought up a Black screen, with cursor button, and
> nothing else except, my PopPeeper.exc (email notifier)and reminder.exc
> (birthday events notifier) which both run thru wine. got rid of
> systray error,
> but I remember that hplip is the Hewlett Packard printer 1200c, which
> sat down
> in the bottom task bar with other icons. I still have no desktop, just
> black screen.

So actually it didn't really work. Well, there was a single post I found
which mentioned wine - see the last answer at
<https://askubuntu.com/questions/101828/no-system-tray-detected-on-this-system>. So you could try if it helps to uninstall wine:

sudo apt-get remove wine

and then reboot.

> PS Is there a way I can upgrade from a K14.04LTS .iso DVD by changing
> the software settings in the Muon settings to include CD Rom, after
> cloning back to before I ran the online upgrade?

I have no idea how to do that - maybe somebody else could help here.

Anyway, you may still have the packages on your system which were
downloaded during the upgrade - it depends on the apt settings. Please
have a look at "/var/cache/apt/archives/". If there are lots of .deb
packages in that directory, you could copy them to a location outside of
the partition you want to clone back. Then before you upgrade again,
copy them back to the original location. That should avoid downloading
everything again. It may be useful even if you upgrade from the DVD
because the packages on the DVD probably aren't the latest version.


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Re: Fwd: kernel updates for k12.04

ray burke
Nils,

but is see the problem is not wine, but  get no desktop?'

Ray

On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 9:20 PM, Nils Kassube <[hidden email]> wrote:
ray burke wrote:
> I followed your instructions- and the only thing that worked was sudo
> apt-get remove hplip and reboot.
>
> then rebooted,and brought up my logon screen, entered my password,
> then went away and brought up a Black screen, with cursor button, and
> nothing else except, my PopPeeper.exc (email notifier)and reminder.exc
> (birthday events notifier) which both run thru wine. got rid of
> systray error,
> but I remember that hplip is the Hewlett Packard printer 1200c, which
> sat down
> in the bottom task bar with other icons. I still have no desktop, just
> black screen.

So actually it didn't really work. Well, there was a single post I found
which mentioned wine - see the last answer at
<https://askubuntu.com/questions/101828/no-system-tray-detected-on-this-system>. So you could try if it helps to uninstall wine:

sudo apt-get remove wine

and then reboot.

> PS Is there a way I can upgrade from a K14.04LTS .iso DVD by changing
> the software settings in the Muon settings to include CD Rom, after
> cloning back to before I ran the online upgrade?

I have no idea how to do that - maybe somebody else could help here.

Anyway, you may still have the packages on your system which were
downloaded during the upgrade - it depends on the apt settings. Please
have a look at "/var/cache/apt/archives/". If there are lots of .deb
packages in that directory, you could copy them to a location outside of
the partition you want to clone back. Then before you upgrade again,
copy them back to the original location. That should avoid downloading
everything again. It may be useful even if you upgrade from the DVD
because the packages on the DVD probably aren't the latest version.


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Re: Fwd: kernel updates for k12.04

Nils Kassube-2
ray burke wrote:
> but is see the problem is not wine, but
>
> *get no desktop?'*

Ooops - I missed the important part of your previous mail that you got
rid of the systray error - sorry.

If you right-click on the desktop, do you get a context menu? If yes,
there should be an option "Add Panel". Select "Default Panel". If you
don't get a context menu, run the command

/usr/bin/plasma-desktop


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Re: Fwd: kernel updates for k12.04

ray burke
Nils,

I did the CTRL-ALT-F2. Log in with your usual
credentials and run the command

DISPLAY=:0 konsole &

then press CTRL-ALT-F7 to return to the GUI where you should have
konsole running.

In both cases you can now enter commands. I then entered-
/usr/bin/plasma-desktop  first time it scrolled thru bringing up the desktop
but disappearing so I tried it second time and this came up with
the desktop, with the clock wrong, of which it refuse to change, as says
not allowed. How do I save these changes for next time I boot?

Ray

On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 4:09 PM, Nils Kassube <[hidden email]> wrote:
ray burke wrote:
> but is see the problem is not wine, but
>
> *get no desktop?'*

Ooops - I missed the important part of your previous mail that you got
rid of the systray error - sorry.

If you right-click on the desktop, do you get a context menu? If yes,
there should be an option "Add Panel". Select "Default Panel". If you
don't get a context menu, run the command

/usr/bin/plasma-desktop


Nils


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