locale and OpenOffice

[Moritz Reiter-3]

Hi,

I'm using Ubuntu 8.04 with LANG=en_US.UTF-8 because I prefer using
applications in English language. Nevertheless I want to use
international standard formats for things like dates and measurements.
Thus I set LC_TIME=en_DK.utf8 because with this setting Thunderbird
shows all dates as yyyy-mm-dd instead of mm/dd/yyyy.

Now I want OpenOffice to use the metric system (i.e. centimeters
instead of inches). I tried

$ LC_MEASUREMENT=en_DK.utf8 openoffice

and

$ LC_MEASUREMENT=de_DE.utf8 openoffice

but OpenOffice still uses inches.

Even if I use

$ LANG=de_DE.utf8 openoffcie

but then OpenOffice uses German language but still inches for measurements :(
So it looks to me as if OpenOffice wouldn't use the system locale
settings at all to determine the measurement units to use. On the
other hands I couldn't find any setting in the preferences to set the
measurement units. But I saw on a completely German Ubuntu OpenOffice
using the metric system.

Could anyone give me a hint how to force OpenOffice to use the metric
system for measurements?

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[Tony Arnold-3]

verwertungsprozess wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm using Ubuntu 8.04 with LANG=en_US.UTF-8 because I prefer using
> applications in English language. Nevertheless I want to use
> international standard formats for things like dates and measurements.
> Thus I set LC_TIME=en_DK.utf8 because with this setting Thunderbird
> shows all dates as yyyy-mm-dd instead of mm/dd/yyyy.
>
> Now I want OpenOffice to use the metric system (i.e. centimeters
> instead of inches). I tried

In Writer, you can right click on the ruler at the top and the side of
the document and select metric units. Does that help?

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[NoOp-4]

On 08/31/2008 05:13 AM, Tony Arnold wrote:

>
> verwertungsprozess wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm using Ubuntu 8.04 with LANG=en_US.UTF-8 because I prefer using
>> applications in English language. Nevertheless I want to use
>> international standard formats for things like dates and measurements.
>> Thus I set LC_TIME=en_DK.utf8 because with this setting Thunderbird
>> shows all dates as yyyy-mm-dd instead of mm/dd/yyyy.
>>
>> Now I want OpenOffice to use the metric system (i.e. centimeters
>> instead of inches). I tried
>
> In Writer, you can right click on the ruler at the top and the side of
> the document and select metric units. Does that help?
>

Thanks for that! I'd forgotten all about that option.

verwertungsprozess can also easily set the locale in OOo:
Tools|Options|Language Settings|Languages|Locale setting.


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[Moritz Reiter-3]

NoOp wrote:
> On 08/31/2008 05:13 AM, Tony Arnold wrote:
>> In Writer, you can right click on the ruler at the top and the side of
>> the document and select metric units. Does that help?

Hi Tony,

that helps a bit, but e.g. at Format|Page|Page the units for the margins
are still inches.

> verwertungsprozess can also easily set the locale in OOo:
> Tools|Options|Language Settings|Languages|Locale setting.

Hi NoOp, I already did set this to "German" but the units e.g. at the
page format window are still inches. Sorry for not mentioning this in
the originial mail.

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[Dotan Cohen]

2008/8/31 Moritz Reiter <[hidden email]>:
> Hi NoOp, I already did set this to "German" but the units e.g. at the
> page format window are still inches. Sorry for not mentioning this in
> the originial mail.
>

That may be because your paper size is defined in inches. A4 is
metric. I think that Letter is inches, but you better double check
that.

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[John D Lamb]

On Sun, 2008-08-31 at 13:21 +0200, verwertungsprozess wrote:

> Could anyone give me a hint how to force OpenOffice to use the metric
> system for measurements?

Tools > Options > OpenOffice.org Writer > General

There is an option that allows you to choose millimetres, centimetres,
inches, picas or points. IIIRC you have to set this separately for
Writer and Calc.

I suppose the justification for this is that although we Europeans use
the metric system for most things, 1 point = 1/72 inch = 1/12 pica. So
it’s often easier to specify 12 point text with 14.1 point leading in 28
pica lines.

Writer accepts any measurement uint in its dialogues and converts it to
the set measurement unit. So you can specify, for example a paragraph
indent of 1pi and it will convert to 0.42 cm. This is especially useful
for leading (linespacing) ans spacing between paragraphs. Usually it is
easier to specify these in points even if you use centimetres as set
measurment unit. Use pt for points, pi for picas, " for inches, cm for
centimetres and mm for millimetres.

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[Moritz Reiter-3]

Dotan Cohen wrote:

> 2008/8/31 Moritz Reiter <[hidden email]>:
>> Hi NoOp, I already did set this to "German" but the units e.g. at the
>> page format window are still inches. Sorry for not mentioning this in
>> the originial mail.
>>
>
> That may be because your paper size is defined in inches. A4 is
> metric. I think that Letter is inches, but you better double check
> that.
>

Hi Dotan,

thanks for your reply. In the page style window it says "A4" under
"paper format" but width and height are in inches :(

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[Johnny Rosenberg]

2008/8/31 verwertungsprozess <[hidden email]>

Hi,

I'm using Ubuntu 8.04 with LANG=en_US.UTF-8 because I prefer using
applications in English language. Nevertheless I want to use
international standard formats for things like dates and measurements.
Thus I set LC_TIME=en_DK.utf8 because with this setting Thunderbird
shows all dates as yyyy-mm-dd instead of mm/dd/yyyy.

Now I want OpenOffice to use the metric system (i.e. centimeters
instead of inches). I tried

$ LC_MEASUREMENT=en_DK.utf8 openoffice

and

$ LC_MEASUREMENT=de_DE.utf8 openoffice

but OpenOffice still uses inches.

Even if I use

$ LANG=de_DE.utf8 openoffcie

but then OpenOffice uses German language but still inches for measurements :(
So it looks to me as if OpenOffice wouldn't use the system locale
settings at all to determine the measurement units to use. On the
other hands I couldn't find any setting in the preferences to set the
measurement units. But I saw on a completely German Ubuntu OpenOffice
using the metric system.

Could anyone give me a hint how to force OpenOffice to use the metric
system for measurements?

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I just noticed that you asked a question about OpenOffice.org on the Ubuntu list. That's not a bad idea, I suppose, I just wanted to inform you, just in case you didn't already know, that there are a few OpenOffice.org lists as well. In the future, if you ask something more and don't get good answers here, you might want to try the [hidden email] list. There are also lists for OpenOffice.org developers and a few lists for other languages than English. More info can be found at openoffice.org but I think you can subscribe to the OpenOffice.org user's list by sending an empty email to [hidden email].

J.R.

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[Moritz Reiter-3]

On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 9:09 PM, John D Lamb <[hidden email]> wrote:
> On Sun, 2008-08-31 at 13:21 +0200, verwertungsprozess wrote:
>
>> Could anyone give me a hint how to force OpenOffice to use the metric
>> system for measurements?
>
> Tools > Options > OpenOffice.org Writer > General

Hi John,

thanks a lot, that should be the option I searched for. I must have
overlooked it when I browsed the options menu several times. Sorry
'bout that.

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[Moritz Reiter-3]

On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 10:25 PM, Johnny Rosenberg
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> 2008/8/31 verwertungsprozess <[hidden email]>
> I just noticed that you asked a question about OpenOffice.org on the Ubuntu
> list. That's not a bad idea, I suppose, I just wanted to inform you, just in
> case you didn't already know, that there are a few OpenOffice.org lists as
> well. In the future, if you ask something more and don't get good answers
> here, you might want to try the [hidden email] list. There are also
> lists for OpenOffice.org developers and a few lists for other languages than
> English. More info can be found at openoffice.org but I think you can
> subscribe to the OpenOffice.org user's list by sending an empty email to
> [hidden email].

Hi Johnny,

thanks for the hint!

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