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Ric Moore
Strange, I'm on a standard homebuilt desktop/server computer, and after
not using the mouse for a few minutes, I have to click the buttons like
mad to get it working again. Just moving the mouse has no effect, I must
click the mouse buttons several times before the mouse cursor moves
again. It's like it went to sleep on me and I have the energy stuff
turned off. Strange.

After the upgrade the mouse worked fine. The first night when I applied
all of the updates, is when it occurred. It's a fairly new two
button/scroll wheel USB mouse. Anyone else experiencing this before I
start the witch hunt?? Thanx, Ric

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Re: mouse behavior erratic after upgrade to 12.04 and updates applied

Phil Dobbin
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On 09/05/12 01:15, Ric Moore wrote:

> Strange, I'm on a standard homebuilt desktop/server computer, and after
> not using the mouse for a few minutes, I have to click the buttons like
> mad to get it working again. Just moving the mouse has no effect, I must
> click the mouse buttons several times before the mouse cursor moves
> again. It's like it went to sleep on me and I have the energy stuff
> turned off. Strange.
>
> After the upgrade the mouse worked fine. The first night when I applied
> all of the updates, is when it occurred. It's a fairly new two
> button/scroll wheel USB mouse. Anyone else experiencing this before I
> start the witch hunt?? Thanx, Ric
>

Are you using KDE by any chance? There have been reports that the latest
KDE suffers from erratic mouse behaviour.

Cheers,

  Phil...

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Re: mouse behavior erratic after upgrade to 12.04 and updates applied

Basil Chupin-2
On 09/05/12 12:24, Phil Dobbin wrote:

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> On 09/05/12 01:15, Ric Moore wrote:
>
>> Strange, I'm on a standard homebuilt desktop/server computer, and after
>> not using the mouse for a few minutes, I have to click the buttons like
>> mad to get it working again. Just moving the mouse has no effect, I must
>> click the mouse buttons several times before the mouse cursor moves
>> again. It's like it went to sleep on me and I have the energy stuff
>> turned off. Strange.
>>
>> After the upgrade the mouse worked fine. The first night when I applied
>> all of the updates, is when it occurred. It's a fairly new two
>> button/scroll wheel USB mouse. Anyone else experiencing this before I
>> start the witch hunt?? Thanx, Ric
>>
> Are you using KDE by any chance? There have been reports that the latest
> KDE suffers from erratic mouse behaviour.

And by "..the latest KDE..." you mean.....?

I am using KDE 4.8.3 (Release 501) without any problems of any kind.

Are you referring to some newer version which I am not yet aware of?

And I have been using Logitech wireless/optical USB keyboards and mices
for some 6+ years now.

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Re: mouse behavior erratic after upgrade to 12.04 and updates applied

Basil Chupin-2
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On 09/05/12 10:15, Ric Moore wrote:

> Strange, I'm on a standard homebuilt desktop/server computer, and
> after not using the mouse for a few minutes, I have to click the
> buttons like mad to get it working again. Just moving the mouse has no
> effect, I must click the mouse buttons several times before the mouse
> cursor moves again. It's like it went to sleep on me and I have the
> energy stuff turned off. Strange.
>
> After the upgrade the mouse worked fine. The first night when I
> applied all of the updates, is when it occurred. It's a fairly new two
> button/scroll wheel USB mouse. Anyone else experiencing this before I
> start the witch hunt?? Thanx, Ric
>

By saying "scroll wheel USB mouse" can I assume that it a wireless
mouse? If not a wireless mouse then ignore following :-) . Otherwise
consider these:

* is the receiving unit under or behind a monitor? I had a similar
problem when the unit got pushed under and behind the (LCD) monitor. The
monitor's electrics interfered with the signal;

* is the battery in the mouse fully charged? (I use rechargeable
batteries which is why I ask the question.) A few days ago the mouse
stopped working - period. The keyboard was OK and was responsive, the
system was still running but the mouse was 'deaded'. With the speed of
Superman circling the earth looking for Lois Lane I deduced that the
problem may lie in the battery - and this turned out to be correct :-) '

* not really applicable to your situation, but not that long ago the
mouse became lethargic: it would move at a snail's pace and I had to
move it several inches just to move it an inch across the screen. Not
normal and not nice :-) . I don't really know why I did this, but what I
did was to blow into the 'ole wot the laser uses to detect movement;
just a single, quick blow job - and the mice started to work at its
normal well behaved way.

BC


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Re: mouse behavior erratic after upgrade to 12.04 and updates applied

Phil Dobbin
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On 09/05/12 06:59, Basil Chupin wrote:

> On 09/05/12 12:24, Phil Dobbin wrote:

>> On 09/05/12 01:15, Ric Moore wrote:
>>
>>> Strange, I'm on a standard homebuilt desktop/server computer, and after
>>> not using the mouse for a few minutes, I have to click the buttons like
>>> mad to get it working again. Just moving the mouse has no effect, I must
>>> click the mouse buttons several times before the mouse cursor moves
>>> again. It's like it went to sleep on me and I have the energy stuff
>>> turned off. Strange.
>>>
>>> After the upgrade the mouse worked fine. The first night when I applied
>>> all of the updates, is when it occurred. It's a fairly new two
>>> button/scroll wheel USB mouse. Anyone else experiencing this before I
>>> start the witch hunt?? Thanx, Ric
>>>
>> Are you using KDE by any chance? There have been reports that the latest
>> KDE suffers from erratic mouse behaviour.
>
> And by "..the latest KDE..." you mean.....?
>
> I am using KDE 4.8.3 (Release 501) without any problems of any kind.
>
> Are you referring to some newer version which I am not yet aware of?
>
> And I have been using Logitech wireless/optical USB keyboards and mices
> for some 6+ years now.

All I'm saying is there were several reports on the Fedora mailing list
of odd behaviour with mice & the common underlying factor was KDE after
an upgrade.

If OP was using KDE, it may of been of some use in helping him debug it.

Cheers,

  Phil...

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Re: mouse behavior erratic after upgrade to 12.04 and updates applied

Basil Chupin-2
On 09/05/12 16:49, Phil Dobbin wrote:

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> On 09/05/12 06:59, Basil Chupin wrote:
>
>> On 09/05/12 12:24, Phil Dobbin wrote:
>>> On 09/05/12 01:15, Ric Moore wrote:
>>>
>>>> Strange, I'm on a standard homebuilt desktop/server computer, and after
>>>> not using the mouse for a few minutes, I have to click the buttons like
>>>> mad to get it working again. Just moving the mouse has no effect, I must
>>>> click the mouse buttons several times before the mouse cursor moves
>>>> again. It's like it went to sleep on me and I have the energy stuff
>>>> turned off. Strange.
>>>>
>>>> After the upgrade the mouse worked fine. The first night when I applied
>>>> all of the updates, is when it occurred. It's a fairly new two
>>>> button/scroll wheel USB mouse. Anyone else experiencing this before I
>>>> start the witch hunt?? Thanx, Ric
>>>>
>>> Are you using KDE by any chance? There have been reports that the latest
>>> KDE suffers from erratic mouse behaviour.
>> And by "..the latest KDE..." you mean.....?
>>
>> I am using KDE 4.8.3 (Release 501) without any problems of any kind.
>>
>> Are you referring to some newer version which I am not yet aware of?
>>
>> And I have been using Logitech wireless/optical USB keyboards and mices
>> for some 6+ years now.
> All I'm saying is there were several reports on the Fedora mailing list
> of odd behaviour with mice&  the common underlying factor was KDE after
> an upgrade.
>
> If OP was using KDE, it may of been of some use in helping him debug it.

I understand.

Except that Ric has this phobia about using KDE and so does not have it
installed as his other posts in today's (and previous) posts show :-) .

(Ric's only fully reliable system which he uses is his chicken foot
which he indiscriminately waves about - whenever he is awake that is :-D .

Actually....I am only assuming this...Maybe he even does it while
asleep....hmmm..)

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Re: mouse behavior erratic after upgrade to 12.04 and updates applied

Phil Dobbin
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On 09/05/12 08:06, Basil Chupin wrote:
> On 09/05/12 16:49, Phil Dobbin wrote:

>> On 09/05/12 06:59, Basil Chupin wrote:
>>
>>> On 09/05/12 12:24, Phil Dobbin wrote:
>>>> On 09/05/12 01:15, Ric Moore wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Strange, I'm on a standard homebuilt desktop/server computer, and
>>>>> after
>>>>> not using the mouse for a few minutes, I have to click the buttons
>>>>> like
>>>>> mad to get it working again. Just moving the mouse has no effect, I
>>>>> must
>>>>> click the mouse buttons several times before the mouse cursor moves
>>>>> again. It's like it went to sleep on me and I have the energy stuff
>>>>> turned off. Strange.
>>>>>
>>>>> After the upgrade the mouse worked fine. The first night when I
>>>>> applied
>>>>> all of the updates, is when it occurred. It's a fairly new two
>>>>> button/scroll wheel USB mouse. Anyone else experiencing this before I
>>>>> start the witch hunt?? Thanx, Ric
>>>>>
>>>> Are you using KDE by any chance? There have been reports that the
>>>> latest
>>>> KDE suffers from erratic mouse behaviour.
>>> And by "..the latest KDE..." you mean.....?
>>>
>>> I am using KDE 4.8.3 (Release 501) without any problems of any kind.
>>>
>>> Are you referring to some newer version which I am not yet aware of?
>>>
>>> And I have been using Logitech wireless/optical USB keyboards and mices
>>> for some 6+ years now.
>> All I'm saying is there were several reports on the Fedora mailing list
>> of odd behaviour with mice&  the common underlying factor was KDE after
>> an upgrade.
>>
>> If OP was using KDE, it may of been of some use in helping him debug it.
>
> I understand.
>
> Except that Ric has this phobia about using KDE and so does not have it
> installed as his other posts in today's (and previous) posts show :-) .
>
> (Ric's only fully reliable system which he uses is his chicken foot
> which he indiscriminately waves about - whenever he is awake that is :-D .
>
> Actually....I am only assuming this...Maybe he even does it while
> asleep....hmmm..)

I see. :-)

Cheers,

  Phil...

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Re: mouse behavior erratic after upgrade to 12.04 and updates applied

Knapp
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Get a live CD from some other distro and test the mouse with that. If
it is hardware then you will likely see the same problem. Try
http://distro.ibiblio.org/tinycorelinux/downloads.html
It is a quick download and fast starting system with almost no bells
and whistles. It is really a cool system if you like minimalist stuff.


On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 9:06 AM, Basil Chupin <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On 09/05/12 16:49, Phil Dobbin wrote:
>>
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>> On 09/05/12 06:59, Basil Chupin wrote:
>>
>>> On 09/05/12 12:24, Phil Dobbin wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 09/05/12 01:15, Ric Moore wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Strange, I'm on a standard homebuilt desktop/server computer, and after
>>>>> not using the mouse for a few minutes, I have to click the buttons like
>>>>> mad to get it working again. Just moving the mouse has no effect, I
>>>>> must
>>>>> click the mouse buttons several times before the mouse cursor moves
>>>>> again. It's like it went to sleep on me and I have the energy stuff
>>>>> turned off. Strange.
>>>>>
>>>>> After the upgrade the mouse worked fine. The first night when I applied
>>>>> all of the updates, is when it occurred. It's a fairly new two
>>>>> button/scroll wheel USB mouse. Anyone else experiencing this before I
>>>>> start the witch hunt?? Thanx, Ric
>>>>>
>>>> Are you using KDE by any chance? There have been reports that the latest
>>>> KDE suffers from erratic mouse behaviour.
>>>
>>> And by "..the latest KDE..." you mean.....?
>>>
>>> I am using KDE 4.8.3 (Release 501) without any problems of any kind.
>>>
>>> Are you referring to some newer version which I am not yet aware of?
>>>
>>> And I have been using Logitech wireless/optical USB keyboards and mices
>>> for some 6+ years now.
>>
>> All I'm saying is there were several reports on the Fedora mailing list
>> of odd behaviour with mice&  the common underlying factor was KDE after
>>
>> an upgrade.
>>
>> If OP was using KDE, it may of been of some use in helping him debug it.
>
>
> I understand.
>
> Except that Ric has this phobia about using KDE and so does not have it
> installed as his other posts in today's (and previous) posts show :-) .
>
> (Ric's only fully reliable system which he uses is his chicken foot which he
> indiscriminately waves about - whenever he is awake that is :-D .
>
> Actually....I am only assuming this...Maybe he even does it while
> asleep....hmmm..)
>
> BC
>
>
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Re: mouse behavior erratic after upgrade to 12.04 and updates applied

Ric Moore
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On 05/08/2012 10:24 PM, Phil Dobbin wrote:

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> On 09/05/12 01:15, Ric Moore wrote:
>
>> Strange, I'm on a standard homebuilt desktop/server computer, and after
>> not using the mouse for a few minutes, I have to click the buttons like
>> mad to get it working again. Just moving the mouse has no effect, I must
>> click the mouse buttons several times before the mouse cursor moves
>> again. It's like it went to sleep on me and I have the energy stuff
>> turned off. Strange.
>>
>> After the upgrade the mouse worked fine. The first night when I applied
>> all of the updates, is when it occurred. It's a fairly new two
>> button/scroll wheel USB mouse. Anyone else experiencing this before I
>> start the witch hunt?? Thanx, Ric
>>
>
> Are you using KDE by any chance? There have been reports that the latest
> KDE suffers from erratic mouse behaviour.
Nope, a straight up Ubuntu 12.04 install that I added xfve desktop to.
So, I can do Ubuntu or XFCE. The mouse is going nuts in both. Darn
annoying thing going on. In the kernal log I'm getting a bunch of this:
WARNING: gnome-keyring:: C_Initialize called twice for same process
WARNING: gnome-keyring:: C_Initialize called twice for same process
WARNING: gnome-keyring:: C_Initialize called twice for same process
WARNING: gnome-keyring:: C_Initialize called twice for same process

Then I see that there is a pm-powersave.log which is rather long and
full of activity. I'd like to kill that entire process, as I'm running a
mid-tower that is on 24/7. I don't need to waste CPU cycles on such
nonsense. How to drag it out, like a screaming Mandrake Root, to gut it
completely out? I suspect something is trying to powersave my mouse's
USB port. Ric

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Re: mouse behavior erratic after upgrade to 12.04 and updates applied

Ric Moore
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On 05/09/2012 02:31 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:

> On 09/05/12 10:15, Ric Moore wrote:
>> Strange, I'm on a standard homebuilt desktop/server computer, and
>> after not using the mouse for a few minutes, I have to click the
>> buttons like mad to get it working again. Just moving the mouse has no
>> effect, I must click the mouse buttons several times before the mouse
>> cursor moves again. It's like it went to sleep on me and I have the
>> energy stuff turned off. Strange.
>>
>> After the upgrade the mouse worked fine. The first night when I
>> applied all of the updates, is when it occurred. It's a fairly new two
>> button/scroll wheel USB mouse. Anyone else experiencing this before I
>> start the witch hunt?? Thanx, Ric
>>
>
> By saying "scroll wheel USB mouse" can I assume that it a wireless
> mouse?

Nope, I don't run wireless anything, I like it wired. Less problems. :) Ric


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Re: mouse behavior erratic after upgrade to 12.04 and updates applied

Ric Moore
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On 05/09/2012 02:49 AM, Phil Dobbin wrote:

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> On 09/05/12 06:59, Basil Chupin wrote:
>
>> On 09/05/12 12:24, Phil Dobbin wrote:
>
>>> On 09/05/12 01:15, Ric Moore wrote:
>>>
>>>> Strange, I'm on a standard homebuilt desktop/server computer, and after
>>>> not using the mouse for a few minutes, I have to click the buttons like
>>>> mad to get it working again. Just moving the mouse has no effect, I must
>>>> click the mouse buttons several times before the mouse cursor moves
>>>> again. It's like it went to sleep on me and I have the energy stuff
>>>> turned off. Strange.
>>>>
>>>> After the upgrade the mouse worked fine. The first night when I applied
>>>> all of the updates, is when it occurred. It's a fairly new two
>>>> button/scroll wheel USB mouse. Anyone else experiencing this before I
>>>> start the witch hunt?? Thanx, Ric
>>>>
>>> Are you using KDE by any chance? There have been reports that the latest
>>> KDE suffers from erratic mouse behaviour.
>>
>> And by "..the latest KDE..." you mean.....?
>>
>> I am using KDE 4.8.3 (Release 501) without any problems of any kind.
>>
>> Are you referring to some newer version which I am not yet aware of?
>>
>> And I have been using Logitech wireless/optical USB keyboards and mices
>> for some 6+ years now.
>
> All I'm saying is there were several reports on the Fedora mailing list
> of odd behaviour with mice&  the common underlying factor was KDE after
> an upgrade.
>
> If OP was using KDE, it may of been of some use in helping him debug it.

Nope, I have a Khan vs Captain Kirk relationship with KDE and I'm Khan
quoting Herman Melville. <grins> Ric


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Re: mouse behavior erratic after upgrade to 12.04 and updates applied

Ric Moore
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On 05/09/2012 03:11 AM, Knapp wrote:
> Get a live CD from some other distro and test the mouse with that. If
> it is hardware then you will likely see the same problem. Try

Thanks, it ran for over a day without problems. I'm on a sat dish that
has a download limit. So, I installed right at 2AM when it is unlimited
until 7AM. Next night a 2AM I did my updates. Next morning the mouse was
locked up, but awakens when I click a mouse button several times. No
mouse problems at all before the upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04. I think
it's going to sleep on me somehow. I think I need to turn on
"/var/log/messages" again. Ric


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On 09/05/12 19:06, Ric Moore wrote:

> On 05/09/2012 02:31 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
>> On 09/05/12 10:15, Ric Moore wrote:
>>> Strange, I'm on a standard homebuilt desktop/server computer, and
>>> after not using the mouse for a few minutes, I have to click the
>>> buttons like mad to get it working again. Just moving the mouse has no
>>> effect, I must click the mouse buttons several times before the mouse
>>> cursor moves again. It's like it went to sleep on me and I have the
>>> energy stuff turned off. Strange.
>>>
>>> After the upgrade the mouse worked fine. The first night when I
>>> applied all of the updates, is when it occurred. It's a fairly new two
>>> button/scroll wheel USB mouse. Anyone else experiencing this before I
>>> start the witch hunt?? Thanx, Ric
>>>
>>
>> By saying "scroll wheel USB mouse" can I assume that it a wireless
>> mouse?
>
> Nope, I don't run wireless anything, I like it wired. Less problems.
> :) Ric

And so, 3 days on...... have you resolved your problem with the mice?

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Re: mouse behavior erratic after upgrade to 12.04 and updates applied

Ric Moore
On 05/11/2012 08:45 PM, Basil Chupin wrote:

> On 09/05/12 19:06, Ric Moore wrote:
>> On 05/09/2012 02:31 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
>>> On 09/05/12 10:15, Ric Moore wrote:
>>>> Strange, I'm on a standard homebuilt desktop/server computer, and
>>>> after not using the mouse for a few minutes, I have to click the
>>>> buttons like mad to get it working again. Just moving the mouse has no
>>>> effect, I must click the mouse buttons several times before the mouse
>>>> cursor moves again. It's like it went to sleep on me and I have the
>>>> energy stuff turned off. Strange.
>>>>
>>>> After the upgrade the mouse worked fine. The first night when I
>>>> applied all of the updates, is when it occurred. It's a fairly new two
>>>> button/scroll wheel USB mouse. Anyone else experiencing this before I
>>>> start the witch hunt?? Thanx, Ric
>>>>
>>>
>>> By saying "scroll wheel USB mouse" can I assume that it a wireless
>>> mouse?
>>
>> Nope, I don't run wireless anything, I like it wired. Less problems.
>> :) Ric
>
> And so, 3 days on...... have you resolved your problem with the mice?

Hell no. This is maddening. If I leave the mouse alone for more than a
minute, it freezes. Clicking the mouse un-freezes it. Gonna try some
older kernels to see if that works Ric


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Re: mouse behavior erratic after upgrade to 12.04 and updates applied

Ric Moore
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On 05/11/2012 08:45 PM, Basil Chupin wrote:

> On 09/05/12 19:06, Ric Moore wrote:
>> On 05/09/2012 02:31 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
>>> On 09/05/12 10:15, Ric Moore wrote:
>>>> Strange, I'm on a standard homebuilt desktop/server computer, and
>>>> after not using the mouse for a few minutes, I have to click the
>>>> buttons like mad to get it working again. Just moving the mouse has no
>>>> effect, I must click the mouse buttons several times before the mouse
>>>> cursor moves again. It's like it went to sleep on me and I have the
>>>> energy stuff turned off. Strange.
>>>>
>>>> After the upgrade the mouse worked fine. The first night when I
>>>> applied all of the updates, is when it occurred. It's a fairly new two
>>>> button/scroll wheel USB mouse. Anyone else experiencing this before I
>>>> start the witch hunt?? Thanx, Ric
>>>>
>>>
>>> By saying "scroll wheel USB mouse" can I assume that it a wireless
>>> mouse?
>>
>> Nope, I don't run wireless anything, I like it wired. Less problems.
>> :) Ric
>
> And so, 3 days on...... have you resolved your problem with the mice?

I must have 5-6 kernels in /boot. sudo update-grub doesn't include them
in the boot-up menu, although during the update process it finds them
and lists them with no sweat. Methinks it isn't writing them correctly
to the boot sector. Any ideas?? Ric


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Re: mouse behavior erratic after upgrade to 12.04 and updates applied

Basil Chupin-2
On 14/05/12 04:22, Ric Moore wrote:

> On 05/11/2012 08:45 PM, Basil Chupin wrote:
>> On 09/05/12 19:06, Ric Moore wrote:
>>> On 05/09/2012 02:31 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
>>>> On 09/05/12 10:15, Ric Moore wrote:
>>>>> Strange, I'm on a standard homebuilt desktop/server computer, and
>>>>> after not using the mouse for a few minutes, I have to click the
>>>>> buttons like mad to get it working again. Just moving the mouse
>>>>> has no
>>>>> effect, I must click the mouse buttons several times before the mouse
>>>>> cursor moves again. It's like it went to sleep on me and I have the
>>>>> energy stuff turned off. Strange.
>>>>>
>>>>> After the upgrade the mouse worked fine. The first night when I
>>>>> applied all of the updates, is when it occurred. It's a fairly new
>>>>> two
>>>>> button/scroll wheel USB mouse. Anyone else experiencing this before I
>>>>> start the witch hunt?? Thanx, Ric
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> By saying "scroll wheel USB mouse" can I assume that it a wireless
>>>> mouse?
>>>
>>> Nope, I don't run wireless anything, I like it wired. Less problems.
>>> :) Ric
>>
>> And so, 3 days on...... have you resolved your problem with the mice?
>
> I must have 5-6 kernels in /boot. sudo update-grub doesn't include them
> in the boot-up menu, although during the update process it finds them
> and lists them with no sweat. Methinks it isn't writing them correctly
> to the boot sector. Any ideas?? Ric

5 or 6 kernels in /boot ?!

Why so many? Is there a special need for them or is it simply that when
a new kernel is installed the installation process doesn't do its job
properly and leaves the old ones behind? The installation process
ideally should just leave a copy of the kernel being replaced so that
you can boot the system if the latest kernel fails to do so.

Get rid of all the baggage! Not only is it taking up space on the HDD
but also in the Grub files used to boot the system. (No wonder the poor
kernel-replacer doesn't do its proper job- the poor dear can't find room
nor know which kernel is being replaced :-) .)

I had a similar problem quite a while back with the system "misbehaving"
which disappeared when I deleted unnecessary kernels left behind by a
misbehaving kernel updater.

Apart from deleting the redundant kernels in /boot have a look in
software management to see if there copies of kernels which should also
be deleted (for example, if you are using something like kernel-desktop
then you don't need kernel-default - what you are currently using,
including version, is shown, as you know, in the grub menu when you are
booting).

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Re: mouse behavior erratic after upgrade to 12.04 and updates applied <SOLVED!>

Ric Moore
On 05/13/2012 11:35 PM, Basil Chupin wrote:

> On 14/05/12 04:22, Ric Moore wrote:
>> On 05/11/2012 08:45 PM, Basil Chupin wrote:
>>> On 09/05/12 19:06, Ric Moore wrote:
>>>> On 05/09/2012 02:31 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
>>>>> On 09/05/12 10:15, Ric Moore wrote:
>>>>>> Strange, I'm on a standard homebuilt desktop/server computer, and
>>>>>> after not using the mouse for a few minutes, I have to click the
>>>>>> buttons like mad to get it working again. Just moving the mouse
>>>>>> has no
>>>>>> effect, I must click the mouse buttons several times before the mouse
>>>>>> cursor moves again. It's like it went to sleep on me and I have the
>>>>>> energy stuff turned off. Strange.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After the upgrade the mouse worked fine. The first night when I
>>>>>> applied all of the updates, is when it occurred. It's a fairly new
>>>>>> two
>>>>>> button/scroll wheel USB mouse. Anyone else experiencing this before I
>>>>>> start the witch hunt?? Thanx, Ric

<snippage about kernels>


Found it and it wasn't the kernel. I had my headset plugged into a USB
3.0 slot, as it was handy and on front of the mini-tower. Evidentially
that was the problem. I moved the headset to a USB 2.0 slot and the
mouse isn't jamming up. I read about that after a pile of google
searching. It seemed so odd, that I tried it. No more problem with the
mouse. Go figure. This stuff is going past me in both lanes. :) Ric



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Re: mouse behavior <NOT SOLVED>

Ric Moore
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Well, I thought for awhile that fixed it by moving my USB headset to a
USB 2.0 slot, but it didn't. Instead it taunted me by working for a bit,
THEN FAILING. Stinkin' USB mouse will freeze up after being idle. I've
tried different kernels, unloaded the nvidia driver, reloaded the nvidia
driver, everything I can think of. I'm gonna re-run the DVD install disk
and run Ubuntu 12.04 from there to see what it does. I shall report
back. Ric



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Re: mouse behavior <NOT SOLVED>

Basil Chupin-2
On 14/05/12 16:45, Ric Moore wrote:
> Well, I thought for awhile that fixed it by moving my USB headset to a
> USB 2.0 slot, but it didn't. Instead it taunted me by working for a
> bit, THEN FAILING. Stinkin' USB mouse will freeze up after being idle.
> I've tried different kernels, unloaded the nvidia driver, reloaded the
> nvidia driver, everything I can think of. I'm gonna re-run the DVD
> install disk and run Ubuntu 12.04 from there to see what it does. I
> shall report back. Ric

I am not telling you how to such eggs, but you do know that if there are
2 USB devices on the same channel then only one will work if the other
is working and using the channel?

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Re: mouse behavior <NOT SOLVED>

Ric Moore
On 05/14/2012 03:13 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:

> On 14/05/12 16:45, Ric Moore wrote:
>> Well, I thought for awhile that fixed it by moving my USB headset to a
>> USB 2.0 slot, but it didn't. Instead it taunted me by working for a
>> bit, THEN FAILING. Stinkin' USB mouse will freeze up after being idle.
>> I've tried different kernels, unloaded the nvidia driver, reloaded the
>> nvidia driver, everything I can think of. I'm gonna re-run the DVD
>> install disk and run Ubuntu 12.04 from there to see what it does. I
>> shall report back. Ric
>
> I am not telling you how to such eggs, but you do know that if there are
> 2 USB devices on the same channel then only one will work if the other
> is working and using the channel?

Well, just got back from running the install CD in run mode. No
problems. I went and walked the dog, came back after 15 minutes and the
mouse kept right on mousing. Nary a burp in the barrel. That's why I
don't trust a damn upgrade, there's always some old obscure config file
~ somewhere ~ that did not get notified that changes have occurred.
Looks like it'll be full clean install time, again. I did have high
hopes though. That'll teach me to take my own advice. <swears> Ric



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