ubuntu 12.04 LTS removing unity and installing GNOME

[Rajeev Prasad]

Q1. is it possible to remove unity and HUD and install GNOME?

Q2. what apps/functionality will i loose?

ty.

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On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Rajeev Prasad <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> Q1. is it possible to remove unity and HUD and install GNOME?
> Q2. what apps/functionality will i loose?

If you have Unity installed, you have GNOME installed. You mean that
you want to replace Unity with GNOME Shell.

You can install "gnome-shell" either from the regular Ubuntu repos or
from a PPA.

I have no idea whether you can uninstall Unity and, if you can, what
effect it'll have; I have both Unity and GNOME Shell installed (and
Cinnamon).

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[Rajeev Prasad]

ty Tom. I thought Unity is separate from GNOME (like KDE)

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On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Rajeev Prasad <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> Q1. is it possible to remove unity and HUD and install GNOME?
> Q2. what apps/functionality will i loose?

If you have Unity installed, you have GNOME installed. You mean that
you want to replace Unity with GNOME Shell.

You can install "gnome-shell" either from the regular Ubuntu repos or
from a PPA.

I have no idea whether you can uninstall Unity and, if you can, what
effect it'll have; I have both Unity and GNOME Shell installed (and
Cinnamon).

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[Ryan Gauger]

Unity is a shell for GNOME. The default Ubuntu installation allows you to use Unity - although it does not come with a separate GNOME desktop environment. GNOME Shell can be installed using the terminal - "sudo apt-get install gnome-shell", without the quotations. Installing the package GNOME Shell also installs the GNOME Classic (GNOME Fallback) session. GNOME Classic is a lot like GNOME 2, but a lot less customisable. You can select between these sessions (along with Unity) at login. Thanks!

 

In Christ,

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On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 4:20 PM, Rajeev Prasad <[hidden email]> wrote:

ty Tom. I thought Unity is separate from GNOME (like KDE)

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On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Rajeev Prasad <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> Q1. is it possible to remove unity and HUD and install GNOME?
> Q2. what apps/functionality will i loose?

If you have Unity installed, you have GNOME installed. You mean that
you want to replace Unity with GNOME Shell.

You can install "gnome-shell" either from the regular Ubuntu repos or
from a PPA.

I have no idea whether you can uninstall Unity and, if you can, what
effect it'll have; I have both Unity and GNOME Shell installed (and
Cinnamon).

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[James Freer]

On Sat, 2 Jun 2012, Rajeev Prasad wrote:

> Q1. is it possible to remove unity and HUD and install GNOME?
> Q2. what apps/functionality will i loose?
>
> ty.
> Rajeev

Another who doesn't like Unity. One thing i don't understand... why not use
Xubuntu and keep life simple for yourself. I started using xubuntu before unity
came out and i haven't looked back.

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[Fredrik Jonson-2]

Rajeev Prasad wrote:

>  Q1. is it possible to remove unity and HUD and install GNOME?

Yes.

 sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
 sudo apt-get purge unity

IIRC the meta-package ubuntu-desktop will implicitly have to be removed
too. AFAIC that is a entirely harmless option, despite a somewhat omnious
warning about uninstallation in the package description of ubuntu-desktop.

>  Q2. what apps/functionality will i loose?

Well, Unity of course. I'm not aware of any apps that depend specificly
on Unity, and apt-rdepends seems to agree with that conclusion.

I can't say that I'm convinced that gnome shell is all that much better
than unity. But at least gnome shell isn't a single vendor product.

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On 02.06.2012 22:07, Rajeev Prasad wrote:
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> Q1. is it possible to remove unity and HUD and install GNOME? Q2.
> what apps/functionality will i loose?
>
> ty. Rajeev
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>

It is possible to remove Unity, but I don't recommend it. You can have
both Unity and GNOME at the same time.

> sudo apt-get install gnome-shell

If you mean "GNOME 2" instead of "GNOME 3" with "GNOME", you might
want to check [MATE].

[MATE]:http://mate-desktop.org/


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[Ryan Gauger]

Hi Rajeev and James,

 

I highly recommend forcing yourself to get used to Unity. GNOME Classic/GNOME 2.x will never be used again as default, and just as Microsoft with Windows 8, Canonical and the Ubuntu devs are wanting people to get used to them. I suppose looking at some of the features Unity has that Windows/Mac don’t, that in the future, possibly in the Quantel development cycle, some really cool features will be added to Unity to make it even easier to use. I use Ubuntu with Unity because Unity is a modern desktop environment when compared to other desktop environments.

 

Sent from my Windows 8 PC

 

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On Sat, 2 Jun 2012, Rajeev Prasad wrote:

Q1. is it possible to remove unity and HUD and install GNOME?
Q2. what apps/functionality will i loose?

ty.
Rajeev

Another who doesn't like Unity. One thing i don't understand... why not use Xubuntu and keep life simple for yourself. I started using xubuntu before unity came out and i haven't looked back.

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> I highly recommend forcing yourself to get used to Unity.

 

Yes, I've begun using Unity. They have fixed a few things that I hated about it.

 

I just tried installing gnome-shell, but have not used it long enough to see if there are any downsides to it, other than the huge icons.

 

Gnome fallback in the previous release was not as functional as the old gnome2 desktop was, even though they look similar. Unity is better.

 

 

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[Roger]

> <snip>
> I highly recommend forcing yourself to get used to Unity.
</snip>
>   I second that ....... except it's not forcing, it's simply another
> way and it's really dead easy.
Working with the new Unity has not slowed me at all.
I learned for Ubuntu and for Fedora and LUV both systems, after the mind
stopped complaining things became very easy.
It takes a few minutes of your time to learn to use the new. Adapting
your machine to the old can take days.

A proviso:
If your machine is a Dell 1545 with on board video, forget it. Unity is
slow when it comes to graphics manipulation of large raw files, you have
to go back to Ubuntu 10.04.

Love the Pangolin.
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[Ryan Gauger]

I have tried to use Fedora before, but cannot get used to the RPM package system. It does take time to get used to a completely new desktop environment. I had to get used to Ubuntu when I switched from Windows. I definitely think Unity is worth getting used to. It is definitely built from a designer's point of view. 

On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Roger <[hidden email]> wrote:

<snip>

I highly recommend forcing yourself to get used to Unity.

</snip>

 I second that ....... except it's not forcing, it's simply another way and it's really dead easy.

Working with the new Unity has not slowed me at all.
I learned for Ubuntu and for Fedora and LUV both systems, after the mind stopped complaining things became very easy.
It takes a few minutes of your time to learn to use the new. Adapting your machine to the old can take days.

A proviso:
If your machine is a Dell 1545 with on board video, forget it. Unity is slow when it comes to graphics manipulation of large raw files, you have to go back to Ubuntu 10.04.

Love the Pangolin.
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[Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.]

I have been using Ubuntu since 10 and to me I don't find the new desktop
environment offensive at all. I happen to like things that are
different, unique, and that go against the "norm". The Unity desktop is
something that although it might take some getting used to, is
definitely a step in the right direction......for me anyway. I realize
it's not everyone's cup of tea, but we're talking about a desktop
environment running on a platform that is NOT Windows! There's no reason
to just "deal" with a desktop you're not happy with, or that seems
complicated and confusing to you. For goodness sakes just use something
else. or create one of your OWN! Are we not the "Open Source Community"?
Surely there's some code, or some app, or some tip, trick, hint, that
you can glean from the gurus that exist throughout most of the world! As
for myself, I'll just use Unity, and get used to it....only because my
next project is trying to figure out how to "blank out / erase" the OS
on a tablet and install Ubuntu on one, without having to buy the thing
with Ubuntu pre-installed on it...I wanna craft my OWN OS on
one.......here's to hoping someone can point me in the right
direction?....thanks in advance and let's remember, it might not be what
you're looking for....but at LEAST IT'S NOT WINDOWS!...LoL!


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[Roger]

What's to get used to?
Ubuntu uses apt-get - install, remove, update,  etc---Fedora uses  yum - install, remove, update, etc. ( I find yum easier to type)
 Learning how to do things and what works and why. These things are why I love Linux.
I admit, one thing I had to get used to is the /etc/apt/souces.list in ubuntu, that took some adapting to as did the convoluted but well reasoned apache2 system.
There's plenty of tuts on how to do stuff, and the forums/lists are great. that's how I learned.

Yep! I well remember the chronic withdrawal that windows engenders but once the mind is trained it will not easily go back to the caves of gloom, the dark ages, that's the beauty of Linux.

Desktop environment!... Click on the icon top left of screen enter the first letters of what you are searching for in the search bar top right and it magically appears. No menu thingies to worry about. And the best thing is the most frequently accessed apps appear first in the display list.

One thing that Linux gave me is the easy to find and use Terminal and a swag of terminal commands, I use these rather than GUI for things like updating, searching for files, and a lot of other stuff.

Roger

I have tried to use Fedora before, but cannot get used to the RPM package system. It does take time to get used to a completely new desktop environment. I had to get used to Ubuntu when I switched from Windows. I definitely think Unity is worth getting used to. It is definitely built from a designer's point of view. 

On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Roger <[hidden email]> wrote:

<snip>

I highly recommend forcing yourself to get used to Unity.

</snip>

 I second that ....... except it's not forcing, it's simply another way and it's really dead easy.

Working with the new Unity has not slowed me at all.
I learned for Ubuntu and for Fedora and LUV both systems, after the mind stopped complaining things became very easy.
It takes a few minutes of your time to learn to use the new. Adapting your machine to the old can take days.

A proviso:
If your machine is a Dell 1545 with on board video, forget it. Unity is slow when it comes to graphics manipulation of large raw files, you have to go back to Ubuntu 10.04.

Love the Pangolin.
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On 06/03/2012 11:09 PM, Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I wrote:

I have been using Ubuntu since 10 and to me I don't find the new desktop environment offensive at all. I happen to like things that are different, unique, and that go against the "norm". The Unity desktop is something that although it might take some getting used to, is definitely a step in the right direction......for me anyway. I realize it's not everyone's cup of tea, but we're talking about a desktop environment running on a platform that is NOT Windows! There's no reason to just "deal" with a desktop you're not happy with, or that seems complicated and confusing to you. For goodness sakes just use something else. or create one of your OWN! Are we not the "Open Source Community"? Surely there's some code, or some app, or some tip, trick, hint, that you can glean from the gurus that exist throughout most of the world! As for myself, I'll just use Unity, and get used to it....only because my next project is trying to figure out how to "blank out / erase" the OS on a tablet and install Ubuntu on one, without having to buy the thing with Ubuntu pre-installed on it...I wanna craft my OWN OS on one.......here's to hoping someone can point me in the right direction?....thanks in advance and let's remember, it might not be what you're looking for....but at LEAST IT'S NOT WINDOWS!...LoL!


Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. (EGO II)

I agree, and I will add to that: I do not understand why Unity has been hated by so many Ubuntu users - and most of them haven't even tried to get used to it - they just install another desktop environment. I am on the Unity Design Team, and we have crafted the most beautiful desktop environment ever (haha, just kidding). It would be helpful if someone replied who hates Unity (or someone who knows why, but maybe doesn't hate it themselves), and told me why, so that I can give this information to the Unity Design Team. As I have said, I do highly recommend just getting used to Unity, like you got used to Ubuntu when you switched from Windows (I know not everyone did, but most people do not install another OS than the one that came pre-installed (most likely, that wasn't Ubuntu unless it was a System76). Either they were eager to try out Ubuntu, or had someone telling them how good it was, and installed it for them. Thanks!

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[Ryan Gauger]

On 06/04/2012 02:07 AM, Roger wrote:

What's to get used to?
Ubuntu uses apt-get - install, remove, update,  etc---Fedora uses  yum - install, remove, update, etc. ( I find yum easier to type)
 Learning how to do things and what works and why. These things are why I love Linux.
I admit, one thing I had to get used to is the /etc/apt/souces.list in ubuntu, that took some adapting to as did the convoluted but well reasoned apache2 system.
There's plenty of tuts on how to do stuff, and the forums/lists are great. that's how I learned.

Yep! I well remember the chronic withdrawal that windows engenders but once the mind is trained it will not easily go back to the caves of gloom, the dark ages, that's the beauty of Linux.

Desktop environment!... Click on the icon top left of screen enter the first letters of what you are searching for in the search bar top right and it magically appears. No menu thingies to worry about. And the best thing is the most frequently accessed apps appear first in the display list.

One thing that Linux gave me is the easy to find and use Terminal and a swag of terminal commands, I use these rather than GUI for things like updating, searching for files, and a lot of other stuff.

Roger

I have tried to use Fedora before, but cannot get used to the RPM package system. It does take time to get used to a completely new desktop environment. I had to get used to Ubuntu when I switched from Windows. I definitely think Unity is worth getting used to. It is definitely built from a designer's point of view. 

On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Roger <[hidden email]> wrote:

<snip>

I highly recommend forcing yourself to get used to Unity.

</snip>

 I second that ....... except it's not forcing, it's simply another way and it's really dead easy.

Working with the new Unity has not slowed me at all.
I learned for Ubuntu and for Fedora and LUV both systems, after the mind stopped complaining things became very easy.
It takes a few minutes of your time to learn to use the new. Adapting your machine to the old can take days.

A proviso:
If your machine is a Dell 1545 with on board video, forget it. Unity is slow when it comes to graphics manipulation of large raw files, you have to go back to Ubuntu 10.04.

Love the Pangolin.
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"What's to get used to?" - Unity. It may not look like much to get used to to you, but trust me, a person who is switching from Lucid to Persistant will probably be completely shocked if he has not been following the Ubuntu news. The Unity desktop environment is not like any other - it makes tasks faster, but they are slower for the first week or so while you get adjusted to the new desktop environment. Unity is modern, more modern than the other desktop environments, including GNOME Shell. Since Unity is not like any other DE, there are things unique to it, like HUD. If a new Unity Desktop user accidentally presses the ALT key while in an app, he will be surprised at what happens. He will probably be sitting there wondering what it is, until he presses a key and suggestions appear. Then, hopefully he has figured out what has happened. Well, I guess I will go drink some coffee milk now (official drink of Rhode Island). Thanks!

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Hi

I just want to say that, you guys are doing a great job, Ubuntu 12.04 is the most beautiful version I ever used, especially the colour, brunette

Regards

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On 06/03/2012 11:09 PM, Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I wrote:

I have been using Ubuntu since 10 and to me I don't find the new desktop environment offensive at all. I happen to like things that are different, unique, and that go against the "norm". The Unity desktop is something that although it might take some getting used to, is definitely a step in the right direction......for me anyway. I realize it's not everyone's cup of tea, but we're talking about a desktop environment running on a platform that is NOT Windows! There's no reason to just "deal" with a desktop you're not happy with, or that seems complicated and confusing to you. For goodness sakes just use something else. or create one of your OWN! Are we not the "Open Source Community"? Surely there's some code, or some app, or some tip, trick, hint, that you can glean from the gurus that exist throughout most of the world! As for myself, I'll just use Unity, and get used to it....only because my next project is trying to figure out how to "blank out / erase" the OS on a tablet and install Ubuntu on one, without having to buy the thing with Ubuntu pre-installed on it...I wanna craft my OWN OS on one.......here's to hoping someone can point me in the right direction?....thanks in advance and let's remember, it might not be what you're looking for....but at LEAST IT'S NOT WINDOWS!...LoL!


Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. (EGO II)

I agree, and I will add to that: I do not understand why Unity has been hated by so many Ubuntu users - and most of them haven't even tried to get used to it - they just install another desktop environment. I am on the Unity Design Team, and we have crafted the most beautiful desktop environment ever (haha, just kidding). It would be helpful if someone replied who hates Unity (or someone who knows why, but maybe doesn't hate it themselves), and told me why, so that I can give this information to the Unity Design Team. As I have said, I do highly recommend just getting used to Unity, like you got used to Ubuntu when you switched from Windows (I know not everyone did, but most people do not install another OS than the one that came pre-installed (most likely, that wasn't Ubuntu unless it was a System76). Either they were eager to try out Ubuntu, or had someone telling them how good it was, and installed it for them. Thanks!

In Christ,
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On 06/04/2012 07:36 AM, William Herry wrote:

Hi

I just want to say that, you guys are doing a great job, Ubuntu 12.04 is the most beautiful version I ever used, especially the colour, brunette

Regards

On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 8:04 PM, Ryan Gauger <[hidden email]> wrote:

On 06/03/2012 11:09 PM, Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I wrote:

I have been using Ubuntu since 10 and to me I don't find the new desktop environment offensive at all. I happen to like things that are different, unique, and that go against the "norm". The Unity desktop is something that although it might take some getting used to, is definitely a step in the right direction......for me anyway. I realize it's not everyone's cup of tea, but we're talking about a desktop environment running on a platform that is NOT Windows! There's no reason to just "deal" with a desktop you're not happy with, or that seems complicated and confusing to you. For goodness sakes just use something else. or create one of your OWN! Are we not the "Open Source Community"? Surely there's some code, or some app, or some tip, trick, hint, that you can glean from the gurus that exist throughout most of the world! As for myself, I'll just use Unity, and get used to it....only because my next project is trying to figure out how to "blank out / erase" the OS on a tablet and install Ubuntu on one, without having to buy the thing with Ubuntu pre-installed on it...I wanna craft my OWN OS on one.......here's to hoping someone can point me in the right direction?....thanks in advance and let's remember, it might not be what you're looking for....but at LEAST IT'S NOT WINDOWS!...LoL!


Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. (EGO II)

I agree, and I will add to that: I do not understand why Unity has been hated by so many Ubuntu users - and most of them haven't even tried to get used to it - they just install another desktop environment. I am on the Unity Design Team, and we have crafted the most beautiful desktop environment ever (haha, just kidding). It would be helpful if someone replied who hates Unity (or someone who knows why, but maybe doesn't hate it themselves), and told me why, so that I can give this information to the Unity Design Team. As I have said, I do highly recommend just getting used to Unity, like you got used to Ubuntu when you switched from Windows (I know not everyone did, but most people do not install another OS than the one that came pre-installed (most likely, that wasn't Ubuntu unless it was a System76). Either they were eager to try out Ubuntu, or had someone telling them how good it was, and installed it for them. Thanks!

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On 4 June 2012 13:20, Ryan Gauger <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> "What's to get used to?" - Unity. It may not look like much to get used to
> to you, but trust me, a person who is switching from Lucid to Persistant
> will probably be completely shocked if he has not been following the Ubuntu
> news.

True, it is quite different - but very /very/ far from totally different.

> The Unity desktop environment is not like any other

Not true. It is very /very/ like Mac OS X.

The sign of a true techie, a competent professional computer user, is
that they know how to use more than one type of computer. The more,
the better, up to a point. But today, any properly skilled computer
user should know Windows, Mac OS X and at least one Unix, typically
Linux.

If you know Macs at all, Unity is a piece of cake.

>  - it makes tasks
> faster,

Not sure about that. They're all quick in the hands of a skilled user.

> but they are slower for the first week or so while you get adjusted
> to the new desktop environment.

A week or so? Really? As long as that? I'd have said an hour or two, myself.

> Unity is modern, more modern than the other
> desktop environments, including GNOME Shell.

I am not sure what "modern" means in UI terms, but Unity is based on
Mac OS X with a hint of Windows, whereas GNOME 2 was almost all
Windows with a hint of Mac. Mac OS X is based on NeXTstep, a 1980s
desktop. So it's not very new, really; its roots go deep.

> Since Unity is not like any
> other DE,

Already addressed that.

> there are things unique to it, like HUD.

The HUD is a new feature in Precise; it was not present in any of the
previous 3 or 4 releases of Unity. As such, I would not call it a
Unity feature.

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[Ryan Gauger]

On 06/04/2012 07:52 AM, Liam Proven wrote:

> On 4 June 2012 13:20, Ryan Gauger<[hidden email]>  wrote:
>> "What's to get used to?" - Unity. It may not look like much to get used to
>> to you, but trust me, a person who is switching from Lucid to Persistant
>> will probably be completely shocked if he has not been following the Ubuntu
>> news.
> True, it is quite different - but very /very/ far from totally different.
>
>> The Unity desktop environment is not like any other
> Not true. It is very /very/ like Mac OS X.
>
> The sign of a true techie, a competent professional computer user, is
> that they know how to use more than one type of computer. The more,
> the better, up to a point. But today, any properly skilled computer
> user should know Windows, Mac OS X and at least one Unix, typically
> Linux.

That is not true. The average computer user does not even know
Ubuntu/Linux exists (unless they see one of the online ads, which appear
to only appear online on computers already running Ubuntu, must be a
flaw, or just me). If you know Macs at all, Unity should still take you
at least a few minutes to an hour to get used to. After all, Unity is
not OS X. But, it does have many features OS X has, like global menu and
launcher (which basically has the same functionality as the dock in OS
X). I also think the average computer user uses a Windows-based
computer, not a Mac. The average computer user doesn't install any other
operating system on their computer, and just uses the one that came
pre-installed on his PC. Unless you mean the properly skilled computer
user as a computer user who has had quite a bit of time figuring things
out and has downloaded Ubuntu. I agree with you then.

>
> If you know Macs at all, Unity is a piece of cake.
>
>>   - it makes tasks
>> faster,
> Not sure about that. They're all quick in the hands of a skilled user.
>
>> but they are slower for the first week or so while you get adjusted
>> to the new desktop environment.
> A week or so? Really? As long as that? I'd have said an hour or two, myself.
>
>> Unity is modern, more modern than the other
>> desktop environments, including GNOME Shell.
> I am not sure what "modern" means in UI terms, but Unity is based on
> Mac OS X with a hint of Windows, whereas GNOME 2 was almost all
> Windows with a hint of Mac. Mac OS X is based on NeXTstep, a 1980s
> desktop. So it's not very new, really; its roots go deep.
>
>> Since Unity is not like any
>> other DE,
> Already addressed that.
>
>> there are things unique to it, like HUD.
> The HUD is a new feature in Precise; it was not present in any of the
> previous 3 or 4 releases of Unity. As such, I would not call it a
> Unity feature.
>
>

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[Jim Byrnes-4]

On 06/04/2012 07:04 AM, Ryan Gauger wrote:

> On 06/03/2012 11:09 PM, Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I wrote:
>> I have been using Ubuntu since 10 and to me I don't find the new
>> desktop environment offensive at all. I happen to like things that are
>> different, unique, and that go against the "norm". The Unity desktop
>> is something that although it might take some getting used to, is
>> definitely a step in the right direction......for me anyway. I realize
>> it's not everyone's cup of tea, but we're talking about a desktop
>> environment running on a platform that is NOT Windows! There's no
>> reason to just "deal" with a desktop you're not happy with, or that
>> seems complicated and confusing to you. For goodness sakes just use
>> something else. or create one of your OWN! Are we not the "Open Source
>> Community"? Surely there's some code, or some app, or some tip, trick,
>> hint, that you can glean from the gurus that exist throughout most of
>> the world! As for myself, I'll just use Unity, and get used to
>> it....only because my next project is trying to figure out how to
>> "blank out / erase" the OS on a tablet and install Ubuntu on one,
>> without having to buy the thing with Ubuntu pre-installed on it...I
>> wanna craft my OWN OS on one.......here's to hoping someone can point
>> me in the right direction?....thanks in advance and let's remember, it
>> might not be what you're looking for....but at LEAST IT'S NOT
>> WINDOWS!...LoL!
>>
>>
>> Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. (EGO II)
>>
> I agree, and I will add to that: I do not understand why Unity has been
> hated by so many Ubuntu users - and most of them haven't even tried to
> get used to it - they just install another desktop environment. I am on
> the Unity Design Team, and we have crafted the most beautiful desktop
> environment ever (haha, just kidding). It would be helpful if someone
> replied who hates Unity (or someone who knows why, but maybe doesn't
> hate it themselves), and told me why, so that I can give this
> information to the Unity Design Team. As I have said, I do *highly*
> recommend just getting used to Unity, like you got used to Ubuntu when
> you switched from Windows (I know not everyone did, but most people do
> not install another OS than the one that came pre-installed (most
> likely, that wasn't Ubuntu unless it was a System76). Either they were
> eager to try out Ubuntu, or had someone telling them how good it was,
> and installed it for them. Thanks!
>
> In Christ,
> Ryan
>
>
>

OK since you asked.  Here are the main reasons I have not upgraded from
10.04 to 12.04 on my desktop.  I have had Unity running on my laptop
since it was released trying to "get used to it".

I like having the panel at the bottom of the screen where I can see at a
glance what I have running and in what window it is running.  I haven't
been able to do this in Unity yet.

I like the menus to be on the apps window not disconnected at the top of
the screen.  If I have a small sized window at the bottom of the screen
it seems foolish to have to move the cursor to the top of the screen to
activate a menu.

I don't like the HUD idea.  If I am starting to use a new program the
first thing I do is pulldown all the menus to see what is available and
then look at the preferences to see what is configurable. It seems to me
HUD would make this difficult.

Those are specific reasons. In general I just don't want to have to
remember another bunch of keystrokes to operate the OS. Typing and
searching is all well and good if you know what you are looking for.  If
you don't seeing it in a menu sure helps.

Regards,  Jim


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